Call my wife.

Calling UK Wildlife. Voice assistance not working for you. BlackRock Investment Trust has a lot working for you. Get to know them at blackrock.com. Capital at risk, marketing material. BlackRock Investment Management UK Limited, authorized and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Bull Work. I'm delighted to welcome back. Co-founder of Indivisible, the organization behind the No Kings protests. It's Ezra 11. It's just you and me this time. Where's your wife? Sadly, you drew the short end of the stick. I don't know why I'm here. She's probably doing some other interviews with other people downstairs. It's non-stop right now, Tim. That's good. Give me up to speed. What's happening? What's the latest?

The protests are coming up on Saturday.

What do people need to know? Oh, it's incredible. Look, we have the largest protests in American history coming up this Saturday. I know that sounds like bluster because I told you that before, but it proved to be the case. last time I told you that we had the largest in history for June's No Kings 1 last year. That was 5 million people at 2,100 protests. Then we had the largest

protest in American history again in October of last year with No Kings 2, 2, 7,000 protests around

the world with 7 million people. Look, right now, we've got two days left to register your No King's protest, and already there are more than 3,100 protests on the map. So we're talking to the Guinness Book of World Records. It's going to be big, it's going to be powerful, it's going to be joyful, it's going to be boisterous, and people should get out there. And if there's not a No King's protest within 30 minutes of where you live, go start your own. You got a couple of days to pull it together.

How do you do those head counts? Seven million.

It is complex and it's not just us. So there is a whole, it's art, it's science. Erica Chenoweth is an academic and an authoritarian expert who does some tracking of protest count size.

We've also good G. Eliot Morris, who has his own methodology.

We do a lot of work with the host to try to get in early numbers to do our best estimate.

Look, I think the main thing that we're trying to get to is 3.5% of the population engaged.

That's what they anti-authoritarian experts say. That's what you need in terms of active numbers of the citizens engaged, pushing back against the authoritarian. In the U.S. context, that's 11 or 12 million. We're making progress. We're not there yet, Tim. That's why we need everybody to be recruiting their friends and families out. Yeah. I imagine you, like, in a war room somewhere, and it's like, we just heard from Poughkeepsie, 180 in Poughkeepsie. That's exactly what it's like, Tim. Can I tell you that? It is like, hey, we just got them to fill in the numbers. Well, this is how it compares the last time. Okay. And then the whole spreadsheet, an enormous spreadsheet is filling up with input from across the country. That's how we try to get the best sense of where it is. But it's an inexact science. It really is. As you can imagine with 3,100 events, you're not going to get every, nobody's taking attendance at these events. There's not somebody signing you in everywhere. I'm sure you get this question everywhere. So I'll just pass that to you. I was in Austin last week. My hometown. Yeah, exactly.

And I had to develop some Q&A among some really nice, weird Austin people.

Yeah, that we're going to go to the No Kings rally on Saturday. But the question they asked me was like,

okay, I'm going because I feel like I want to do something, you know, but I don't really know if this is doing anything.

And is there something else I can do after

because I'm just so mad and it's nice to feel good

and to be around people in the community,

and that's a good start, that's not nothing, but I want to do more.

What do you tell people that ask you that question?

Look, I think people should be hard on our tactics.

Absolutely.

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