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The PoliticsGirl Podcast

We’re Playing the Wrong Game: A Conversation with strategist David Pepper

The PoliticsGirl Podcast

MeidasTouch Network, Leigh McGowan

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.93.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

How do you lock in a minority worldview in America? You control the states. As our guest, democracy activist, author and professor, David Pepper tells us, “You win them. You gerrymander them. You suppress as many votes as you can, and then ram through your extremist agenda, and nobody can stop you.” We see it happening all over the country. This is how Republicans with unpopular opinions, who don’t speak for the majority of the people, continue to win. Democrats have been going along trying to win elections on ideas. Republicans know their ideas can’t win elections, so they’re playing an entirely different game, and if we want to beat them, we need to shift our strategy. As always, if you find worth in what we do, please consider SUBSCRIBING to PoliticsGirl Premium. You’ll get this podcast ad free, along with a bunch of other perks, like the rants directly to your inbox and the knowledge that you’re making this kind of highly researched, factual information possible. If that interests you, please go to https://www.politicsgirl.com/premium and subscribe today!! Thank you so much! xoPG GUEST SOCIALS: Website: https://davidpepper.com/ Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B01IJCZT92 Twitter: @DavidPepper Insta: _davidpepper As always, please RATE and SUBSCRIBE so we can grow the show, open the dialogue, and inspire change moving forward! All show links here!: https://linktr.ee/politicsgirl Thank you to today’s sponsors! https://TryMiracle.com/PoliticsGirl Code: PoliticsGirl https://sundaysfordogs.com/politicsgirl Code: PoliticsGirl https://factormeals.com/PoliticsGirl50 Code: PoliticsGirl50 https://honeylove.com/politicsgirl

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0:00.0

Of course we want to beat Trump.

0:03.0

But if all we do is win federal elections,

0:05.4

if most of their damage and most of their agenda

0:07.8

is being done through state houses,

0:09.7

we can win our federal battle and still lose

0:11.9

the broader battle for democracy. We have to go deeper

0:15.1

and broader. If most of their agenda is being rushed through gerrymandered state houses

0:21.0

and states across this country, we have to go there as well and

0:24.6

start to compete, contest, hold extremists accountable. That's what a long-term

0:30.0

victory for democracy looks like. Hello and welcome to the Politics Girl Podcast. I'm your host Lee McGowan. Let's get into it.

0:47.0

Well, we know who the candidates are now and the stakes could not be higher.

0:50.0

As we keep saying on this show, the 2024 election isn't a battle between two

0:54.9

candidates or two parties. It's a battle between two Americas, one with

0:59.7

democracy and one without. And there's no sugarcoding this. Donald Trump has told the

1:04.7

Republicans he has no room in the party for moderates. There is no room for

1:08.2

Mitt Romney's or John McCain's. There is no room for anyone who wants to work

1:11.9

within the system. There is only room for anyone who wants to work within the system.

1:13.1

There is only room for mega.

1:14.9

Only room for extremism in policy and deference in leadership.

1:18.3

Project 2025 lays it all out with its Christian nationalism and loyalty tests and the abandonment of the checks and

1:24.0

balances that make America America.

1:26.5

So it is absolutely essential that we understand what we're up against and we play to win at every

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