We're Not Having Enough Kids - It's A Disaster - Stephen J. Shaw

TRIGGERnometry

Konstantin Kisin & Francis Foster

News, Politics, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 17 September 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Stephen J. Shaw is a data scientist, demographer, and filmmaker best known for his groundbreaking documentary Birthgap – Childless World. | Want better sleep? Try Beam Dream. Visit https://shopbeam.com/TRIGGER and use code TRIGGERPOD for up to 35% off. Limited time only! Triggernometry is proudly independent. Thanks to the sponsors below for making that possible: - Cape - America's privacy-first mobile carrier. Click https://cape.co/trigger - Promo Code: TRIGGER33 for 33% off - Qualia Senolytic. Go to https://Qualialife.com/TRIG for up to 50% off AND use code TRIG at checkout for an additional 15% off. Join our exclusive TRIGGERnometry community on Substack! https://triggernometry.substack.com/ OR Support TRIGGERnometry Here: Bitcoin: bc1qm6vvhduc6s3rvy8u76sllmrfpynfv94qw8p8d5 Shop Merch here - https://www.triggerpod.co.uk/shop/ Advertise on TRIGGERnometry: [email protected] Find TRIGGERnometry on Social Media: https://twitter.com/triggerpod https://www.facebook.com/triggerpod/ https://www.instagram.com/triggerpod/ About TRIGGERnometry: Stand-up comedians Konstantin Kisin (@konstantinkisin) and Francis Foster (@francisjfoster) make sense of politics, economics, free speech, AI, drug policy and WW3 with the help of presidential advisors, renowned economists, award-winning journalists, controversial writers, leading scientists and notorious comedians. 00:00 - Introduction 02:15 - There's A Singular Reason For Falling Birthrates 16:07 - What Are The Long-Term Consequences? 21:05 - The Effects Of There Not Being Enough Children In Tokyo, Japan 27:50 - The Closure Of Schools 30:19 - South America 37:04 - The Economics 45:18 - Unplanned Childlessness 49:03 - How Ignorant Women Are About Fertility 55:34 - This Is An Anti-Human Message 01:01:40 - Children Are Seen As A Burden 01:09:18 - Our Society Is Dishonest About Biology 01:11:40 - What's The One Thing We're Not Talking About That We Really Should Be? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	So I looked up some data and I thought, oh, this is going to be interesting.
0:04.0	What I didn't expect to find was a pattern across 39 nations.
0:09.3	That explains everything.
0:10.8	And I mean everything.
0:12.5	There is a singular reason for falling birth rates.
0:16.6	Japan seems to be at kind of the forefront of this at the South Korea.
0:20.7	On average, every day, two schools close in Japan. Japan seems to be at kind of the forefront of this as does South Korea.
0:26.8	On average, every day, two schools close in Japan, and that's been going on for 15 years.
0:31.5	Stroller sales for pets are now outstripping strollers for kids.
0:34.5	That's in South Korea, and I believe it's true in Japan, too.
0:38.0	There are people out there trying to block messages, and one of the messages they're trying to block is educating women about fertility. A woman turning 28 in the UK
0:44.6	has a 50-50% chance of ever becoming a mother. At 28, there are some people who literally
0:51.2	want humanity to die. This is a civilization ending.
0:55.0	In that case, what do we do?
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1:17.8	of this episode. Stephen Shaw, welcome back to Trinconometry. Great to have you on. Thanks for the invite.
1:23.7	Yeah, well, you obviously, we talked with you, I think it was last year, about your documentary
1:27.8	birth gap, talking about the fertility crisis across the world now, not just the Western
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