We Need To Talk About Poland

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🗓️ 29 November 2019

⏱️ 50 minutes

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A special hour with lessons on truth, conspiracy, history & the battle over the future.

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0:00.0	From WNYC in New York, this is on the media.
0:03.5	This week we seek answers to our domestic troubles by looking east to Poland, a country wrestling with disinformation, xenophobia, and a battle over its own story.
0:16.5	The assumption that we had finished with those arguments and that we'd all learned the lessons of the Second World War or whatever piece of history you want to point to was wrong.
0:25.4	Poland's new Holocaust speech law.
0:27.7	It was passed this year and it bans any claims that the country collaborated with Nazi
0:31.3	Germany during World War II.
0:33.1	Four years ago I believed that I lived in a democratic country which is in the heart of Europe.
0:39.3	This is not a problem that should be given to the public prosecutor, but rather to educators.
0:44.3	The proper answer to ignorance is education.
0:46.3	Okay, so these elections were won by illiberal, but we should hope and work for the future,
0:53.3	and we should win next elections.
0:56.2	It's all coming up after this.
1:02.5	From WNYC in New York, this is on the media.
1:06.0	Bob Garfield is out this week.
1:07.7	I'm Brooke Gladstone.
1:09.3	This month's impeachment hearings have laid bare
1:12.6	the dynamic at the heart of our current political standoff, former director for Russia and Europe
1:18.3	at the National Security Council, Fiona Hill. The impact of the successful 2016 Russian campaign
1:24.0	remains evident today. Our nation is being torn apart. Truth is questioned.
1:28.7	Disinformation and the breakdown of truth. We see its effects everywhere.
1:33.7	So once you get to Ukraine, you see the real problem is not foreign interference. The real problem
1:39.1	is Clinton interference. There is Buku, as we say in Louisiana, evidence that Ukraine tried to meddle in the 2016 election.
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