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Tribalism, Anger and the State of Our Politics

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🗓️ 4 December 2019

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

An extended conversation with Lilliana Mason about tribalism, anger and the state of our politics.

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0:00.0

With the nation gripped by impeachment hearings, anger and tribalism appear to be at an all-time high,

0:08.2

creating political and societal rifts that seem unbridgeable. Last fall, I spoke with

0:13.7

Lilliana Mason, a political psychologist at the University of Maryland, about the reasons

0:18.9

behind the party tribalism and enmity that characterize

0:22.2

our politics. She told me that only 70 years ago, the country was deemed by political

0:28.0

scientists to be not polarized enough, leading to confusion and disengagement on the part

0:34.2

of the electorate. Yes. In the best possible way, parties are what we call heuristics. So there are cognitive

0:40.1

shortcuts that we use to make political decisions because we can't ask our citizens to read

0:45.6

every page of every bill that comes before Congress. And so parties have been a useful way for

0:51.8

people to make pretty easy and quick political choices.

0:55.7

In 1950, the American Political Science Association put out a report recommending that our parties

1:02.4

were not distinct enough from each other and that they therefore did not provide a clear

1:08.0

enough choice for voters and that it was making people's political decision-making

1:13.2

too difficult. So if the Republicans weren't the Conservative Party 70 years ago, what were they?

1:21.7

In the 1950s, this is pre-Civil Rights Act. The two parties were effectively a mixture of liberals and conservatives.

1:32.5

The Republican Party, up until that point, really had been the party of the North.

1:38.4

The Republicans had been the party of Abraham Lincoln and the Union, while the South was the Confederacy, the Democratic Party,

1:46.7

represented a collection of conservative southerners, as well as some more economically liberal

1:53.4

northerners, whereas the Republican Party was a northern, northern, economically conservative

1:59.0

party, but still had plenty of relatively liberal people in it.

2:04.1

So what caused the change? Was it Nixon's Southern strategy to coalesce a base based largely on racial fear?

2:11.9

Was it the long list of culture wars battles that had already begun, from the Civil Rights Act to Miranda,

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