We Need Allies More Than Ever (with Charlie & Ben)

All Out in the Open

All Out in the Open, Questions from the Closet

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🗓️ 25 March 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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This month on OPEN Up, Charlie Bird and Ben Schilaty tackle the overwhelming noise surrounding LGBTQ+ topics in the Church and society, sharing personal stories of feeling excluded, politicized or dehumanized. Those experiences can bring a lot of loneliness but also a deeper, more complex faith. Loving God and loving our neighbor go hand in hand—Ben and Charlie ask us to ponder, what does it truly mean to love our LGBTQ+ neighbors? While individual acceptance doesn’t make up for structural e...

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, welcome to All Out in the Open. I'm Charlie Bird. And I'm Ben Shalati on this episode of
0:05.2	Open Up, Charlie, I got kind of real about just how we've been feeling lately and things that have been
0:09.7	sort of tough. Yeah, we know a lot of people have been experiencing a lot of noise or pushback,
0:14.7	and it's kind of an interesting time to be an LGBTQ person in the church and the country.
0:21.0	And we just kind of like dug into that a little bit and ended up having a pretty cool conversation
0:25.9	about what we can do and what allies can do in order to kind of help lift some of the burden.
0:31.8	Yeah.
0:32.0	And I showed off my off-the-cuff knowledge of the Book of Acts.
0:34.8	Yeah, he did.
0:36.0	You can always trust Ben to quote a scripture.
0:37.9	Hope you enjoy it.
0:52.7	Things have been pretty loud lately, huh? I have been very loud. Yeah, what did you notice?
1:04.8	I've noticed a lot of people saying things about LGBTQ people that I think were believed a lot before, but now it's so much more out in the open.
1:05.7	Tell me more.
1:15.4	Like, trans people are really under a lot of attack right now, and like trans people are really under a lot of attack right now and like trans people were just dismissed from the military and like that is that is really jarring and and and like Idaho is trying
1:24.3	to pass a lot to not allow gay marriage in their state.
1:28.8	And North Dakota.
1:30.0	And like there's this whole plan that's well laid out that people can read and look up about how they're hoping to overturn gay marriage nationwide.
1:40.0	The Burgerfell ruling later this year or next year.
1:43.8	And it just really feels like in a lot of ways,
1:45.9	our community is being attacked.
1:48.7	And that has been loud and kind of scary.
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