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Welcome back, America.

I'm Hugh Hewitt.

Senator Mark Wayne Mullen is our guest.

We love to talk to the Senator from Oklahoma.

Senator, I checked during the break. You were not even born when Watergate happened and the Urban Committee assembled.

And a select committee drilled down on Richard Nixon. Now, I knew Richard Nixon. I worked with Richard Nixon.

Richard Nixon was a friend of mine. And what they did to him was wrong, and people can read about what happened 52 years ago. But I think we need a select committee on Jack Smith. Have you been following this today? Have you talked to Ted Cruz or any of your buddies who got spite on? No, I haven't. Oh, yes, about the ones who've got spat on, but I haven't taught to Ted today.

I will tell you, though, Hugh, I am a huge fan of President Nixon.

I have read, I don't know how many different books on him.

I think he was one of the best presidents as far as it comes to foreign policy,

understanding the layout of foreign policy, the need of it.

And his political, I guess you'd call it, stute,

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