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The Ramsey Show

We Make $200K and We’re Still Broke

The Ramsey Show

Ramsey Network

Education, Investing, Business, Self-improvement

4.538.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2026

⏱️ 127 minutes

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0:00.0

Brought to you by the Every Dollar app.

0:06.8

Start budgeting for free today.

0:14.3

Normal is broke and common sense is weird.

0:17.3

So we're here to help you transform your life.

0:20.3

From the Ramsey Network and the Fairwinds

0:21.8

Credit Union studio, this is the Ramsey Show. I'm George Camel, joined today by the Rachel

0:27.9

Cruz, who is also a co-host of mine on another show we do called Smart Money Happy Hour,

0:32.8

which you can check out on YouTube, podcast, Spotify, all the good places. Taking your calls at

0:37.3

AAA-8-25-255-225.

0:40.3

Jessica kicks us off in Idaho.

0:42.3

What's going on, Jessica?

0:44.9

Hi.

0:45.8

I'm real nervous about talking through with this, but it's real thankful.

0:49.9

It's you, too.

0:50.9

I enjoy your other show for our money happy hour.

0:53.8

Thank you. Thank you'm feeling a little on the

0:56.1

anxious side. We got you. Well, thank you. All right. I will just jump in here. So my husband and I

1:02.7

are both 50. We have a combined growth income of a 200k, net 161. We did not pay taxes in 2023. He owns his own business, an HVag business.

1:16.9

And with the accounting, we found out last October for 2024, which filed late, was

1:23.6

$47,000 that we owed. Well, now, because we didn't find out so super late, we now did not

1:31.5

get to correct anything for 2025. And so we owe an additional 25,000 for 2025. We also have

1:41.4

combined current consumer debt, which, again, I am not real proud of this by any stretch, but it's about 137K.

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