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Trump, Inc.

We Don't Talk About Leonard: Episode 3

Trump, Inc.

WNYC Studios

Don, Trump, News, Business, Jared, Ivanka, Jr, Politics, Business News, Government, Eric

4.65.7K Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2023

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

State Supreme Court elections across the country are getting ever more expensive and more partisan. In the third episode of “We Don’t Talk About Leonard,” ProPublica reporters Andrea Bernstein, Andy Kroll, and Ilya Marritz drill even further into the fight to gain influence over state courts, and reveal what Leo and his allies are planning for the future. This series is created in partnership with On the Media and ProPublica. Listen to On the Media wherever you get your podcasts. ProPublica is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Sign up to receive their biggest stories as soon as they’re published. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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0:00.0

Hello, Trumpink listeners, it's Andrea Bernstein.

0:02.7

It's been great to be back with you.

0:05.0

And now, drum roll, please.

0:07.1

Episode three of We Don't Talk About Leonard,

0:10.0

the new audio series, Ilya Maritz and I've been working

0:12.5

on for ProPublica and on the media.

0:14.9

It's about a conservative legal philosopher,

0:16.9

general, named Leonard Leo.

0:19.8

You might know his name because he was Trump's judge whisperer,

0:23.7

but Leo is so, so much more powerful than that.

0:27.4

As we found, his influence stretches

0:29.7

to state supreme courts and attorneys general

0:33.3

to the whole of American culture.

0:36.2

To report this story, Ilya and I teamed up

0:38.4

with ProPublica's Andy Crowell,

0:40.6

an investigative reporter who's been breaking stories on Leo.

0:44.2

And the three of us dug deep.

0:46.3

If you haven't listened to episodes one and two,

0:49.1

well, go back and listen.

0:50.9

Here's the final installment.

0:53.2

We begin with on the media's Brooke Gladstone.

0:58.1

Millions of dark money dollars are pouring

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