Ilya’s new series The Harvard Plan
Trump, Inc.
WNYC Studios
4.6 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 18 November 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey there, it's Ilya. It's been a little while. I wanted to share with you my latest piece of journalism. |
| 0:05.5 | It's a series I made with the Boston Globe and WNYC's On the Media called The Harvard Plan. |
| 0:11.0 | And it's about what the Trump administration's pressure campaign is doing to American universities. |
| 0:16.8 | It's got memorable characters, thorny, moral, and ethical problems, and the stakes could not be higher. |
| 0:23.1 | So please have a listen. |
| 0:26.2 | Ryan looked forward to election night, 2024. |
| 0:29.7 | He expected a pleasant return to form, the way election nights used to be. |
| 0:34.5 | This is going to be elections being fun again. |
| 0:36.6 | We're going to sit, We're going to drink beer. |
| 0:38.4 | We're going to watch election turns come in and play like games. |
| 0:42.4 | I say return to form because the 2016 election hit Ryan like a sucker punch. |
| 0:48.0 | Not because he doesn't like Trump, although he definitely does not like Trump, but because |
| 0:52.3 | the models failed so badly. |
| 0:55.4 | Ryan Enos is a political scientist at Harvard, and specifically, he's a numbers guy. |
| 1:00.6 | It seemed like this kind of tragedy for quantitative political science because it defied a lot of |
| 1:04.5 | people's predictions. |
| 1:05.8 | Then came 2020, the COVID election, and after that, the false claims of a stolen election. |
| 1:11.9 | Still, going into the first Tuesday of November 24, Ryan felt good about the models. |
| 1:17.9 | That evening, he made his way over to Memorial Hall, which is the most Hogwartsy building |
| 1:22.7 | on Harvard's campus. |
| 1:24.3 | They throw a big election watch party there every four years. A lot of undergrad's turnout. |
| 1:30.0 | My role was to kind of tell them what they wanted to hear, which was that Harris was going to win, |
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