This is the Gary V. Audio Experience.

So Gary, I just want to bring you in because you are fascinating and we've spoken on different

panels and I've been on your show and we just have known our paths would cross again

and I instantly said, I have to have you on this podcast.

You're perfect for an interesting discussion about things that people would never think

about.

I really appreciate that and it's fun for me to be on this because I really pay attention

and I just genuinely admire your skill set as an entrepreneur and it's very impressive

to me and I think because I was born in the former Soviet Union, I grew up in a very

kind of like work ethic was the way out kind of like DNA.

I just see like I really see your you're just putting in real effort and sustained effort

and I'm really excited to be on the show because I really really really admire it.

Well I'm excited and that we have we just end up going places you never thought but

I want to get to the beginning with you.

Your company is called Vayner X. A lot of people listening don't even necessarily know

who you are and who what you do.

So how would you describe yourself?

The way I describe myself as an entrepreneur because I have my hand there a lot of businesses.

I used to call it a business man when I was a teenager.

Entrepreneur when you and I were kind of growing up was like I don't know like it had like

some weird negative like it didn't seem like a good thing like I'd only heard it a couple

times but it seemed it seemed fluffy it seemed like you were some rich kid that like didn't

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