WDF 30: The Long War XI

When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

Zack Twamley

Phd, International Relations, Korean War, European History, 17th Century, 18th Century, Politics, 20th Century, Thirty Years' War, History, 19th Century, War, First World War

4.8 • 773 Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2017

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

We're not QUITE ready to watch the Turk batter down the walls of Vienna - instead, we're spending a few more minutes examining the motives of the Ottoman's two leading men. Is it really possible to properly grasp what led these two figures, Kara Mustafa and Sultan Mehmed IV, in their charge for the Golden Apple?

Furthermore, is it possible to gauge a point when peace ended and war began, or are things far less straightforward than that? Indeed history friends, sometimes simple formulas do not quite work, and the rules of diplomatic history do not apply, but either way, a storm was coming which the Habsburgs, if only they would actually wake up and smell the approaching doom!

Remember history friends, YOU are the glue that holds WDF together! Without you, there's no tales about Louis XIV, none about Kara Mustafa, and no WDF in general! What a terrible thought, but if you want to make this history nerd world of ours a better place, why not head on over to Patreon and see what we can do for you? I have so much great plans for WDF into the future, and all patrons will get to feast upon a range of wonderful goods. Whether its $2, $5 or $25, your support is what enabled me to work on this joy of mine, so let's keep it going well into the future! www.patreon.com/WhenDiplomacyFails

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0:00.0	Hey guys, welcome to When Diplomacy Fails, the Long War episode 11. This is the 11th episode of Long War, as I just said. And if you haven't listened to the previous 10 episodes that came before this, make sure you do or you probably won't know what's going on. However, if you're like me and you're impatient and you like to just skip to the end or you like to skip to what are more often called the...
0:20.6	Imagine winning 50. just skip to the end or you like to skip to the what are more often called the imagine winning 15 million pounds on Christmas Day
0:27.1	the 15 million pound lotto jackpot must be won on Christmas
0:32.6	day there's still time to get in the draw
0:35.2	lotto will you be the next millionaire?
0:38.8	The National Lottery, rules and procedures apply, players must be 18 or over.
0:44.8	Juicy bits of the story, which is not to say that the other parts of the story are not juicy,
0:49.1	but if you're the kind of person that likes to skip to near the end of the story
0:52.7	to find out more of the juicy
0:54.8	bits and you want to skip that background detail, then by all means be my guest. In case you weren't
1:00.1	aware, we are covering the last siege of Vienna in this analysis called the Long War, and also,
1:06.5	if you weren't aware yet, this conflict, the Long war, waged from the early 1680s to the late
1:12.5	1690s. The way we're going to do it in when diplomacy fails, though, is a bit strange because
1:16.8	after we finish covering the last siege of Vienna at the end of 2017, we are then in January
1:22.7	2018 going to start covering the Korean War. Yes, how about that? Covering a war that is somewhat
1:29.4	known and so much, well, I suppose relevant you could say, for several reasons I decided to cover it,
1:35.0	but I'm really looking forward to dropping the Korean War on you, but that does not mean that
1:38.6	Louis XIV is going to be disappearing. On the contrary, he won't be disappearing, but he will
1:43.0	be being put on hold,
1:44.5	likely for the majority of 2018, if not even for all of 2018. And we'll have to just see what
1:51.1	happens after that. It was a decision I made a while ago, and I will release a proper episode
1:55.8	explaining my rationale for doing this. But yes, I will be covering the Korean War from January 2018, and I thought
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