WCI #464: Is The 4% Rule Still Safe? (Creator Responds)
White Coat Investor Podcast
Dr. Jim Dahle of the White Coat Investor
4.8 • 2.4K Ratings
🗓️ 26 March 2026
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
The 4% rule has been one of the most widely used frameworks in retirement planning—but is it still valid today?
In this episode, we sit down with Bill Bengen, the creator of the 4% rule, to discuss how retirement strategies have evolved and what high-income professionals should be thinking about now.
We cover his latest book, A Richer Retirement, along with his current recommendations on safe withdrawal rates, portfolio construction, and how different asset classes can impact retirement income.
We also address common misconceptions about the 4% rule, answer audience questions, and explore what actually leads to a successful—and happy—retirement.
If you're a physician, dentist, or high-income professional planning for retirement, this conversation will help you better understand how much you can safely spend—and how to think about risk, flexibility, and long-term planning.
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The White Coat Investor Podcast launched in January 2017, and since then, millions have downloaded it. Join your fellow physicians and other high income professionals and subscribe today! Host, Dr. Jim Dahle, is a practicing emergency physician and founder of The White Coat Investor blog. Like the blog, The White Coat Investor Podcast is dedicated to educating medical students, residents, physicians, dentists, and similar high-income professionals about personal finance and building wealth, so they can ultimately be their own financial advisor-or at least know enough to not get ripped off by a financial advisor. We tackle the hard topics like the best ways to pay off student loans, how to create your own personal financial plan, retirement planning, how to save money, investing in real estate, side hustles, and how everyone can be a millionaire by living WCI principles.
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| 0:00.0 | This is the White Coat Investor podcast, where we help those who wear the white coat get a fair shake on Wall Street. |
| 0:06.2 | We've been helping doctors and other high-income professionals stop doing dumb things with their money since 2011. |
| 0:16.0 | This is White Coat Investor podcast number 464. |
| 0:19.8 | Today's episode is brought to us by SOFI, the folks who help you |
| 0:22.5 | get your money right. Paying off student debt quickly and getting your finances back on track isn't |
| 0:26.9 | easy, but that's where SOFI can help. They have exclusive low rates designed to help medical residents |
| 0:32.2 | refinanced student loans, and that could end up saving you thousands of dollars, helping you get |
| 0:36.6 | out of student debt sooner. SoFi also has the ability to lower your payments to just $100 a month while you're |
| 0:41.8 | still in residency. And if you're already out of residency, SOFi's got you covered there too. |
| 0:46.7 | For more information, go to SOFI.com slash white code investor. SoFi student loans are originated |
| 0:51.7 | by SOFI Bank and a member FDIC additional terms and conditions |
| 0:54.9 | apply, NMLS 696891. |
| 0:57.9 | All right, welcome back to the podcast. |
| 0:59.9 | Thanks for what you do. |
| 1:01.8 | Unfortunately, I've had lots of opportunities to interact with the medical profession lately. |
| 1:06.5 | I don't enjoy that part of it so much, but it is nice to meet you guys and see you at work, |
| 1:11.3 | and I do appreciate your education and training and how it helps me with whatever my medical |
| 1:17.0 | challenges might be for the moment. You are doing good work out there. That's why you get paid |
| 1:23.9 | so well, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you're getting the thank |
| 1:27.6 | you that I know a lot of you enjoy getting from time to time. |
| 1:31.1 | So if no one said thanks for your hard work today, let me be the first. |
| 1:35.0 | By the way, the white coat investor is here to help you be successful. |
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