Wayback Wednesday: Stopping Alien Abductions

A View from the Bunker

Derek Gilbert

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4.8 • 528 Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2026

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

It’s a View from the Bunker’s Wayback Wednesday, with another interview drawn from our archive of programs dating back to June, 2009. This week, we go back to 2010 and interview with Joe Jordan of CE4 Research Group about the truth behind “alien” abductions.

First released February 7, 2010

THE WORLD is more like The X-Files than most people would like to believe. Of course, coming from Hollywood, The X-Files didn’t present the whole story behind UFOs and alien abductions.

Joe Jordan is the President and co-founder of CE4 Research Group, an alien abduction investigation and research team based out of Cocoa, Florida. Joe has been a Mutual UFO Network Field Investigator since 1992. He’s been a guest speaker at six Roswell UFO Festivals in Roswell, New Mexico, including the 60th Anniversary Conference in 2007, and he hosted the official Roswell UFO Festival Conference in 2008.

Joe is the co-author with David Ruffino of the book Unholy Communion: The Alien Abduction Phenomenon, Where It Originates and How It Stops. We discussed his research into the phenomenon, where the “aliens” really come from, and how contactees and experiencers can make them go away.

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Stopping alien abductions. Now on a view from the bunker.
0:08.8	The world is a lot more like the X-Files than most of us think.
0:13.4	UFOs abduction phenomena. That's all real, but it's not what most of the world thinks it is.
0:18.9	Our guest this week is the co-founder and president of CE4 research.
0:22.8	He's been an investigator for the Mutual UFO Network since 1992.
0:27.0	He's spoken at six different Roswell UFO festivals and hosted the Roswell UFO Festival
0:31.9	Conference in 2008.
0:34.1	And he's the co-author of a forthcoming book with Dave Rafino called Unholy Communion,
0:39.2	the Alien Abduction Phenomenon, where it originates, and how it stops.
0:42.9	We welcome Joe Jordan to the bunker.
0:45.1	Joe, it's good to talk with you again.
0:47.0	Yeah, it's good to be back on.
0:48.4	And it's been some time we'll have to do this again a little bit shorter together.
0:53.1	I agree.
0:53.9	It's been far too long because this is one of the aspects of life, really, of the nature of the universe that has intrigued me since I was a kid.
1:06.2	As we talked before recording here, I've been a fan of science fiction for a long, long time, and a lot of
1:11.7	science fiction deals with first contact and then, you know, the expanded contact of mankind out
1:17.3	into the universe in dealing with alien races. And of course, the stories of experiences and
1:26.5	abductees,
1:31.3	it makes for some interesting and very compelling reading.
1:34.0	It's also been the fuel for a lot of popular movies,
1:37.1	like Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
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