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A View from the Bunker

Wayback Wednesday: Shadow People

A View from the Bunker

Derek Gilbert

Lucifer, Christianity, Seraphim, Elohim, History, Cherubim, Angels, Politics, Watchers, Ancient Near East, Religion & Spirituality, Satan, Iraq, Syria, Demons, Giants, Israel, Theology, Babel, Conspiracy, Babylon, Prophecy, Dominionism, Nephilim

4.8 • 528 Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2026

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

It’s Wayback Wednesday with another episode drawn from our archive of programs going back to 2009. This week, we feature author Jason Offutt and his research into “shadow people.”

Originally released July 5, 2009

HAVE YOU ever wondered about those disturbing waking dreams in which you’re sure someone is in your room, someone who means to hurt you, and you’re paralyzed, unable to even call for help? Or have you seen something indistinct but person-shaped, possibly wearing a hat, that appears and disappears through solid objects like doors and walls?

Jason Offutt, author of Darkness Walks: The Shadow People Among Us, has seen them, too. And so the creator of the paranormal-themed From the Shadows column has researched the so-called Shadow People, presenting an easy-to-read analysis of the possible scientific, supernatural, and theological explanations for these ghostly apparitions.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Darkness walks, the shadow people among us.

0:03.0

Now on a view from the bunker.

0:09.0

Our guest has been with us on PID Radio several times in the past,

0:13.0

and we're happy that he can join us again to talk about his new book.

0:15.0

He's the author of Haunted Missouri, a ghostly guide to the show me State's most spirited spots, and his new book,

0:22.3

Very Intriguing, Called Darkness Walks, The Shadow People Among Us.

0:26.4

Jason Offit, welcome back to the bunker.

0:28.5

Thank you very much. I'm glad you're having me on again.

0:30.4

Well, it's always interesting when we have the opportunity to talk because we share an interest in the paranormal and you have been out

0:41.7

there chronicling the encounters of people with the paranormal for quite some time now

0:46.5

at your blog which will put a link to in the show notes from the shadows and also in the

0:53.0

books that you put out there.

0:59.5

The most recent book, Now, Darkness Walks, the new one, The Shadow People Among Us,

1:04.8

if I remember from previous conversations, this is based on your personal experiences,

1:07.1

or at least inspired by?

1:29.3

Right. The interest in Shadow People is based on a personal experience. A number of them I had when I was a child. That really, really spurred my interest in this. Now, this was the mid-70s when I first encountered these entities, and nobody, you know, nobody really by that that name and and people really didn't you know as far as I knew and didn't talk

1:34.6

about about things like that they're all categorized as ghosts but even as an

1:40.1

eight-nineteen-year-old kid I categorized them as shadow people. That's what I called them in my head.

1:46.0

I didn't really talk to them or talk to people about them because, yeah, you kind of keep

1:50.4

quiet about those things sometimes.

1:53.7

But, yeah, I was, like I said, I was either 8, 9, 10, somewhere around there.

1:59.3

We lived out in the middle of nowhere.

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