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Better Offline

Watching the Watchmen with Jason Koebler

Better Offline

Cool Zone Media and iHeartPodcasts

Technology

4.6687 Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2024

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Ed Zitron is joined by 404 Media's Jason Koebler to talk about the state of both the tech industry and the tech media, and how 404 Media has built a worker-owned outlet that genuinely works.

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https://www.404media.co/ https://x.com/jason_koebler https://bsky.app/profile/jasonkoebler.bsky.social

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed human.

0:07.0

New Year's resolution.

0:08.8

Own how you show up online.

0:10.7

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0:13.7

Now just 99 cents per month for new customers their first year.

0:18.2

Ring in 2026 with a domain and matching email at goaddy.com slash new year.

0:23.8

That's go daddy.com slash new year to own how you show up online.

0:33.7

CallZone Media.

0:36.6

Hello and welcome to better offline, your most punished podcast.

0:40.1

I am your host, Ed Zittron.

0:50.0

Better Offline.

0:53.0

Today I'm joined by one of the single best people in the tech media.

0:56.9

Jason Kebler of 404 media regularly requested by listeners, but I punish you too.

1:03.3

Jason, thank you so much for joining me.

1:05.1

Thanks for having me.

1:06.1

Wow, I did not know that.

1:07.3

That inflates my ego already.

1:10.7

Always necessary. I experienced ego death around episode seven, so I feel nothing anymore.

1:16.5

But we were just talking before this about Facebook effectively, Mark Zuckerberg effectively

1:23.8

admitting that AI slop was good for the platform. I think it's good for you to just

1:29.1

walk me through that story. It's a 404 media story. Walk me through it because it's a good scene

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