I'm going to show you how great I am.

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I just want to say from the bottom of me heart, I'd like to take this chance to

apologize to absolutely nobody.

Hello and welcome to How to Take Over the World. This is Ben Wilson. I've got a special episode for you today. As you know, one of the great secrets of life is that the great men,

women, always copy someone who came before them. Napoleon studied the example of Julius Caesar and

tried to be like him. Steve Jobs emulated Edwin Land. Thomas Edison

was obsessed with Michael Faraday. You get the idea. So as I was studying the life of George

Washington, the question arises, who was George Washington trying to be like? And it turns out

that George Washington was obsessed with a Roman statesman named Cato. And as my luck would have it,

my friend Alex Petkiss, host of the Cost of Glory podcast,

was researching Cato at the same time that I was doing my George Washington episodes.

Alex also did a bunch of research into Washington and the connection between Washington and

Cato, and I think he had some really interesting things to say about why George Washington

was so inspired by Cato, what it means to be a modern day Cato, why people tend to become so obsessed

with ancient Rome and more. So I think you'll love this conversation that I had with Alex about

Cato and Washington and their similarities. By the way, if you're not already subscribed to the

cost of glory, you should be. It's one of my favorite podcasts, and I think it's a great resource

for anyone who's trying to achieve great things. Without further ado, here is my conversation with Alex Petkis about Cato and Washington.

Alex is doing a series right now called Visions of Caesar in which he, in the lead up to

a series on Julius Caesar himself, he's doing some of the surrounding characters.

He's done Pompey.

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