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Was That the Top? Bitcoin, ETH, & Q4 Setup | Michael Nadeau's DeFi Report #6

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🗓️ 30 September 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Is this really the cycle top, or just a reset before Q4 fireworks? Michael Nadeau from The DeFi Report joins Ryan to decode the latest onchain and macro data. We dig into Bitcoin’s key levels, ETH’s $4K line, and why September’s liquidation event might have cleared the path for new highs in Q4. Michael explains what a “mini alt season” tells us about dominance, where fresh capital could come from, and how to think about positioning ahead of year-end. Michael Nadeau & The DeFi Report: https://x.com/JustDeauIt https://thedefireport.io/research/is-the-top-in —————— 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium —————— BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🪙FRAX | SELF SUFFICIENT DeFi https://bankless.cc/Frax 🦄UNISWAP | SWAP ON UNICHAIN https://bankless.cc/unichain 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 🎩DEGEN | JOIN THE COMMUNITY https://bankless.cc/degen 🌳KGEN | REQUEST A DEMO https://bankless.cc/KGEN-podcast 🏄SURF | UPGRADE YOUR CRYPTO RESEARCH https://bankless.cc/surf —————— TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Introduction to Crypto Fundamentals 1:43 Recapping the Summer Market 2:11 Analyzing the Mini Altcoin Season 6:54 Examining Long-Term Holder Behavior 7:35 Bitcoin vs. Altcoins: Market Dynamics 12:38 The Next Phase of the Cycle 14:41 Bitcoin's Critical Price Levels 17:12 Moving Averages: Key Indicators 20:40 Current State of the Altcoin Market 26:34 Insights on Ethereum’s Future 27:44 Liquidation Events and Market Sentiment 31:22 Understanding Global Liquidity 34:42 Macro Economic Outlook 38:41 Impact of Rate Cuts on Crypto 47:41 Future Capital Inflows into Crypto 49:37 Monitoring Market Cycles & Conditions 50:49 Closing & Disclaimers —————— Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

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0:00.0

Bankless Nation, we have a crypto fundamentals episode for you today. I've got Michael Nato on today's

0:09.4

episode. We're going to talk about the big question that's in my mind, your mind, Mike,

0:13.9

I think in a lot of crypto investors' mind. Is the top in? Is the top in is the question.

0:20.7

We got this pullback in September and it didn't

0:23.5

feel good. I know September is downtember, but still, it's like not fun to get that kind of a

0:31.1

pullback. Bitcoin has seemed stuck in the 110s for the longest time. Momentum seems to be slowing with some of our majors. We had this

0:41.1

alt-coin rally, and it kind of petered out, and now we're going the other direction. We've got

0:46.2

crypto influencers calling the cycle top, and there's just some general anxiety in the space right now. So, Mike, I'm hoping you

0:55.9

can guide us through it today. Yeah, no, thanks for having me, Ryan. I think sentiment is, I think,

1:02.0

people are a little nervous going into this kind of recent sell-off. It seems like there's a lot of

1:06.6

people out there that are sort of looking, looking for the top, which typically doesn't

1:11.4

coincide with tops. But I do see a lot of sort of people a little antsy out there. So hopefully

1:16.6

we can kind of go through some data, hopefully maybe put some people at ease as we move through

1:21.1

the episode today. That's what you and I do, Mike, on these monthly episodes. So as a reminder

1:25.9

for folks that are new to this,

1:32.1

Mike and I put out a crypto fundamentals episode where we look at a lot of the on-chain data to guide analysis. It could be a particular project. Oftentimes, it's just where we are in the cycle.

1:37.5

And today we're going to talk about the big question, is the top in, or do we still have some more

1:42.4

time? All right, Mike, as we're looking at the prices

1:46.6

right now, this is, we're recording this on September 29th, so it's Monday, had kind of a bad

1:52.1

Friday, and then a not great weekend. We have had some recovery right now. So at the time

1:57.1

of recording, Bitcoin is 114K almost, So that's up from the 110 it was. And Ethereum is above 4K,

2:07.8

which feels kind of nice. Can we just recap where we've been over the summer? So in your post,

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