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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Oscar Edmondson and I'm joined today by James Heal and

Madhumuta Murgia, who is the AI editor for the Financial Times.

So this week the Prime Minister has hosted his landmark AI summit at Bletchley Park, which

wrapped up with an interview with Elon Musk.

We can hear a section of that interview now.

I think we are seeing the most disruptive force in history here. You know, we have for the first time,

we will have the first time something that is smart and the smartest human. I mean, it's

hard to say exactly what that moment is, but there will come a point

where no job is needed. You can have a job if you want to have a job for sort of personal

satisfaction, but the AI will be able to do everything.

So James, coming to you first, do you think that Rishusennaz's AI summit was a success?

I think so, particularly when you remember the drumbeat of criticism before this summit

no one was going to go China wasn't going to go and if they were going to go they wouldn't

get a deal with them it was going to be humiliation. Oh, Elon Masters sit down.

Actually, if you look at all of this, given where we were a week ago or so, I think that

there is achievements in this summit, getting the Bletchley Declaration, at least some

kind of dialogue going around what the rule should be, China and the US signing up to that.

And I think that it was, if you look at the guest list for instance, it was a sort of who's who of AI.

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