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Friday 17th of October, Annadarmini, 2025.

Honwell here at the helm. Good evening. There are a few newspapers as sedate and anti-sensationalist as the Financial Times.

So when they published a recent article,

headlined, did the political establishment pave the way for

Trump and Farage? That caught my interest and it is quite a subversive argument that we're

going to go through it now. The theses inside this article are definitely worth the wallroom

posse's consideration on this and the academic

featured at the heart of this article Lawrence Gunther Dr. Gunther from the Institute for Advanced

Studies in Toulouse joins us tonight from Toulouse. Dr. Gunther, thank you very much for joining

us. Your thesis, let me get this right, your thesis is effectively that it's the action or the

lack of action on behalf of the political mainstream that actually created inadvertently the rise of these populist and nationalist

movements right across the world. Why do you give us the, in your own words, the, what led you

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