junk food cinema. This is Brian and Cargill. And we're still here. We have not been canceled yet. This is episode two. We did it. The dose. The dose. The sophomore effort. We have not been yanked off the air yet. I can't wait until we get to episode eight and we can just call it the Ocho. The Ocho. Yes, because that's when we'll talk about movies nobody's heard of.

That'll be the one. That'll be the time we finally break that mold. So I want to take a moment,

and I feel like this is entirely appropriate to talk about ironic film appreciation and irony in

general, because we do live in Austin,

which is sort of a hive for the hipster crowd.

It is.

And I think there might be that, you know, we can hear about what this podcast is and it's like,

oh, it's a bad movie podcast.

You think of things like, you know, mystery science theater or, you know, like late night

movie marathons at various multiplexes.

And there's a sense or a perception that maybe all of the love for movies like this is based

on some sort of irony or is based on the so bad it's good model, which I, you know, to be entirely honest,

I erroneously used as a model going, like when I first started junk food cinema, as just

to kind of explain it to people like, the so bad they're good. But I think that carries with it

too much negative connotation. It does. And it doesn't quite, it doesn't quite nail what we're talking about.

Because we're not talking about the movies that are so bad, they're good.

There are the occasional movies that are so bad, they're good.

And I used to, as a critic, I would do the worst of list every year.

And I took the worst of list really seriously.

In fact, I took it more seriously than I took my top 10 list because so many people, so many critics in particular, don't take a worst of list seriously and just put the top 10 films that annoyed them that year.

Right.

Or that they thought were disappointing and call it a worst of list. And it's like,

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