and also even increased suicide rates in the tribes that eat the modern foods because the tooth

pain was so bad without access to dentistry that suicides actually went up and they tied

them to the dental problems. I mean, this is kind of blindingly obvious.

Uh-huh, uh-huh. You see, like you and I are both engineers, so we define the problem.

We don't define the symptom.

And when you define the problem, you get different answers than if you define the symptom.

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We have a fascinating podcast today because i'm going to be speaking with an engineer and biochemical expert patrick tuit and he has done what

very few people have been able to do he has effectively reversed his heart disease and dramatically brought

down his calcium score. So I know this is going to be a fascinating conversation, Pat.

I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, and it's long overdue, I must admit, but there's been a lot

going on. So maybe you could start with giving a brief overview of roughly how you actually reversed your heart disease,

because we know that calcification progression can be slowed down,

and that confers a massive lowering of risk just by stopping the progression.

But the holy grailil and a lot of people

ask about it is actually reversing the calcification leaching the calcium

back out and achieving a near elimination of the disease process which is

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