The Michael Berry Show.

Michael Quinn Sullivan is our guest.

He's a publisher of Texas scorecard

and host of the Texas Minute Podcast.

Welcome, Michael.

Hey, Michael, thanks for having me on.

I appreciate it, man.

I read your newsletter you sent out yesterday.

And there was a particular line that caught my attention.

And maybe it was affirmation bias.

But because it sounded like something I would say

and something I often feel,

I wanted you to share.

I read it earlier, but you wrote,

there's a dirty little secret in Austin

among Republican, quote, unquote,

strategist and lawmakers.

There's a big incentive to almost win.

In fact, there's big money to be made in

coming close to solving problems and enacting reforms.

You talk about the fact that

these reps and senators go up to Austin

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