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I lay in bed and pray for customers to come to the website. Have you more than doubled since 2021?

Oh my God, yes.

Okay, great. So in 2021 you did 41 million.

So today he's doing more than 80.

He tricked me.

Ross, you've got such a great story, though, because obviously you were in the driver's seat at Home Away, but you weren't necessarily the founder front line.

What was that experience?

Like, and specifically, what was it like when you signed or the founders told you were

selling for $3.5 billion to Expedia?

Well, first, I need to correct you.

3.9 billion. There we go. We like a... 400 million, 400 million extra. We don't want to lose that.

Well, I mean, it was great. I mean, we went public. We raised all this money. And then we went public,

and then we sold to Expedia. And still to this day, Expedia says, you know, it was their best

acquisition and we let them a great product.

That's great.

Well, we're going to close the interview with more on the Expedia deal.

But first we want to learn a ton about Zen business.

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