From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

Welcome to The Treatment.

It's always good to have old friends come back to this show,

and there's nobody to talk to more than our old friend friend Walter Hill, who over a career has taken us behind the stained undershirt

of masculinity in the movies, going back to his first film as director, Hard Times, to

The Warriors, which is celebrating its 40th anniversary this year, to eat Johnny Handsome.

So many friends, even his work on Alien, asked questions about the myth behind masculinity.

And his newest project is a recorded piece called The Cowboy Iliad.

First of all, Walter is so great to have you back.

Thank you very much, Elvis.

Pleasure to be here.

Oh, it's true.

It's a thrill to have you back.

And just listening to this and you do the voicing for it, it's just there's so many things in this that make me think this is perfect material for Walter Hill.

We should say the incident this is about is probably at this time the most infamous gunfight in the history of the West and is in fact a bigger sort of body count than any of the others,

bigger than than... O.K. Corral.

Okay, Corral. Any of those, yeah.

Yeah, sure.

No, the body count of the gunfighting Perry Tuttle's dance hall in Newton,

Newton, Kansas, this is 1871, other than some of the

big army Indian fights.

I think this is the reigning champion, shall we say.

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