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Money Tree Investing

Wall Street Is Selling Beer, Beaches, and Barbecue… Here’s How You Can Invest

Money Tree Investing

Money Tree Investing Podcast

Stockmarket, Valuestocks, Investing, Finance, Passiveincome, Wealth, Business, Personalfinance

4.6658 Ratings

🗓️ 3 September 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Wall Street is selling beer, beaches, and barbecue. Want to invest? We also dove into the concerns about the reliability of government data. Investors should focus less on headline data and more on long-term directional trends, since recessions matter less to portfolios than actual corporate performance. We also talk labor markets, employment revisions, and rate-cut predictions, highlighting inconsistencies and the limited value of forecasts.

Debt structures like extended auto loans and creative mortgages stress the importance of cash flow flexibility and smart loan structuring rather than simply chasing the lowest rate. Kirk also shares his experience getting an offer accepted on a home during a time of market peaks.

We discuss... 

  • Corporate earnings compared to government data; how companies manage expectations to appear consistently successful.
  • Investors should focus on long-term directional trends rather than short-term or inaccurate data points.
  • Whether recessions truly matter for investors compared to corporate earnings growth.
  • Labor market data showed employment revisions and a slowdown in job gains, raising concerns about real job strength.
  • Predictions of interest rate cuts are inconsistent and unreliable.
  • Consumer behavior trends, including retail and food service spending, suggested tightening conditions.
  • Rising delinquency rates in student loans and credit cards signaled growing consumer financial strain.
  • Mortgages and auto loans showed fewer delinquencies since they are collateralized and prioritized by borrowers.
  • There is importance in structuring debt with maximum flexibility and focusing on cash flow management.
  • A home should be viewed as a personal expense rather than an investment.
  • Housing markets are peaking in many areas, with Massachusetts showing declining rents and prices.
  • Mortgage strategies discussed include recasting loans and making lump-sum payments to reduce monthly payments or shorten maturity.
  • Using a home equity line of credit strategically can accelerate mortgage payoff and improve cash flow.
  • Globally, fertility rates in developed countries are below replacement level, indicating shrinking populations.
  • Growth in population is concentrated in parts of Africa, South America, and select Asian regions.
  • Macro trends impacting markets include protectionism, geopolitical tensions, and reserve currency diversification.
  • Policy rewrites under Trump are shaking up traditional approaches, sometimes positively by encouraging change.
  • Many U.S. housing markets are seeing declining sales as buyers and sellers are unwilling to compromise.
  • Tariffs, especially on metals, could spike short-term costs across industries but are expected to normalize over the long term.
  • Unexpected macroeconomic events, such as new technologies or policy changes, can disrupt markets before adjustments occur.

Today's Panelists:

Kirk Chisholm | Innovative Wealth
Douglas Heagren | Mergent College Advisors

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast.

0:04.0

Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life.

0:10.0

Hello, Smart Money Tree podcast listeners.

0:12.0

Welcome to this week's show.

0:13.0

My name's Kirk Chisholm.

0:14.0

I'll be your host.

0:15.0

And today I'm joined with Doug Hagerin.

0:17.0

Hey, Doug.

0:18.0

Hey there, Kirk.

0:19.0

Happy Labor Day weekend to you and everybody else.

0:23.0

And, you know, I just can't get enough.

0:24.5

Yeah, I think this is the fourth time we've chatted this week.

0:27.1

It's awesome.

0:28.0

So much to talk about that we've been able to fill hours and hours of space.

0:31.4

And now we've got more.

0:33.3

It's a whole lot of Doug.

0:34.3

Just listening to the Rolling Stones, a whole lot of love.

0:36.5

It's a whole lot of Doug. Just listening to the Rolling Stones, a whole lot of love. It's a whole lot of Doug. That's a blessing or a curse, depending on who's listening. Yeah, I'm in a spicy mood. I just got off a workout, and I just got an offer on a house accepted. So those of you were listening a month ago, we put another offer and we had to back out because the seller tried to scam us. They lied to their teeth. I think this one will be fine. But this weekend, going to go do an inspection and fingers crossed, it's going to go through because I'm ready to go. So I'm in a good mood. Hopefully, great mood. We'll have a better backdrop here in the future for the videos. We got a really good office there with some

1:12.7

bookcases. It would be pretty cool. So I'm in a good mood. We'll let everybody know what happens

1:17.4

when it happens, but I think this is the winner. My second choice is actually phenomenal.

1:21.9

Dago like this. It backs up to a mass conservation property. It's like huge thing which you can go hunting on. Now, as I've told people, I don't hunt, but my son wants to. So I was like, this would be really cool. And you walk around, it's like acres and acres of land and woods and lakes and cool stuff. And it's basically mine. I don't have to pay for it because they can just walk around it. Anyway, it was kind of cool. This is better. Maybe not for Doug, but it's better for me. We'll get crack in here in the interest of the weekend. We're doing a little early. We had a scheduling snafu for tomorrow, so we held it early. I see exactly zero people who are expecting us to go because we just, we scheduled this five minutes before it started so the listeners will be fine

2:01.8

but those who are listening live sorry we'll get you next time let's dive in some stuff i'm in a good

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