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Money Tree Investing

The Risks and Rewards of Investing in Fine Art

Money Tree Investing

Money Tree Investing Podcast

Stockmarket, Valuestocks, Investing, Finance, Passiveincome, Wealth, Business, Personalfinance

4.6658 Ratings

🗓️ 29 August 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Philip Hoffman is here to share his journey from CPA to investing in fine art. He founded The Fine Art Group, where he advises wealthy families on art investing, valuations, lending, and education. He outlines the global art market as a $60 billion industry with only $6–10 billion considered truly investable, highlights the risks and pitfalls of treating art as an asset class without expert guidance, and shares cautionary tales of investors losing millions by buying discounted works without due diligence, contrasted with success stories where expertise and timing led to strong returns.

We discuss... 

  • Philip Hoffman began his career as a CPA at KPMG, later became CFO and youngest board director at Christie’s, and eventually founded The Fine Art Group.
  • His firm advises wealthy families across 28 countries on art transactions, valuations, education, and art-backed lending.
  • Investable art includes high-value works, jewelry, vintage cars, and luxury items like Hermès handbags, while most antiques and collectibles fall outside this category.
  • Investors can access art through funds, private credit against art, direct ownership, or syndication with others.
  • Hoffman emphasizes that art buyers should use reputable advisors, much like when purchasing real estate, to avoid costly mistakes.
  • A client once spent $4 million on 40 polo paintings by an unknown artist with no resale market, ultimately finding them worthless.
  • Using an advisor costs a fraction of an artwork’s price but can prevent costly mistakes.
  • Even seasoned collectors often misjudge valuations; in one example, most experts mistook a $1M Monet for a $10M Monet.
  • Condition issues, provenance gaps, and theft risks make professional due diligence essential in high-value purchases.
  • Current market conditions—with top-tier art down 20–30% from recent highs—make this one of the best times in decades to buy blue-chip works.
  • Wealthy collectors often allocate about 5% of their portfolio to art, balancing enjoyment with investment.
  • The black market exists, but high-profile stolen works are nearly impossible to sell through reputable channels.
  • Damage usually devastates value, though rare cases like Banksy’s shredded artwork increased in worth due to notoriety.
  • Mishandling in storage, shipping, or moving can ruin artworks, highlighting the importance of professional logistics.
  • Over decades, disciplined art investors with good advisors typically achieve strong compounded returns comparable to or exceeding equities.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast.

0:04.0

Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life.

0:10.6

Hello, Smart Money Tree Podcast listeners. Welcome to this week show. My name is Kirk Chisholm and I'll be your host. So today I'm joined with Philip Hoffman. I do want to you, Philip.

0:18.1

Very good. Nice to speak to you. Before we begin, this would be an interesting interview.

0:22.0

Tell us a bit about your background, what you do.

0:23.6

I started as a CPA at KPMG and then became CFO of Christie's, which was the biggest

0:29.4

auction house in the world. I ended up running that business on the main board from the age of 27,

0:35.6

since we're the youngest in that company at the time.

0:38.9

And I left 25 years ago and founded the Fine Art Group.

0:42.5

And now we do five different things.

0:44.9

We're involved in advising some of the families around the world in 28 countries on how to buy and sell art.

0:51.4

We do the valuations for trust and estates and tax in the US. We do a lot of

0:57.4

educational information for our clients. And we lend money. So we have funds that lends money

1:04.0

against our producers returns. We've run multiple art investment funds. And we've advised clients

1:10.2

on how to buy wisely or how to avoid the

1:13.9

pitfalls. And that's an interesting conversation and that they can make serious money out of art or

1:18.8

they can lose serious money out of art if they don't really know what they're doing. And I'll give you

1:22.3

plenty of examples of that. I think it was about 15 years ago, it became an emerging asset class,

1:26.7

at least in our field from what we've heard.

1:28.6

I know it's been around for a long time, but in terms of the investing community, considering

1:33.0

art as an asset class, as a legitimate asset class started.

1:36.9

And I know some people have tried to create funds and other things.

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