Walking the Line Between the Living and the Dead, Part One | Grave Talks CLASSIC
The Grave Talks | Haunted, Paranormal & Supernatural
Ghost Stores, Haunted, Paranormal & Supernatural Stories
4.6 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 31 December 2025
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
Some paranormal investigators go looking for answers. Others find themselves noticed by something on the other side.
In this episode of The Grave Talks, we journey into the experiences of author and paranormal investigator Alex Matsuo, whose encounters with the unknown go far beyond typical investigations. From moments that brought her face-to-face with her own mortality to unexpected communications from beyond, Alex shares what it’s like to live at the crossroads between life and the afterlife.
This conversation explores how certain experiences seem to mark individuals—drawing in wandering souls and unexplainable moments that follow long after the investigation ends. Alex discusses the challenges of carrying these experiences while maintaining a grounded, everyday life, and how the paranormal can blur the boundaries between observer and participant.
This is a thoughtful look at what happens when the unknown doesn’t wait to be invited—and how one investigator continues to navigate that line.
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| 0:00.0 | Today on the Grave Talks, Beacon to the Dead, a conversation with Alex Matsuo. |
| 0:09.3 | Sometimes you find the spirits and sometimes they find you. Alex Matsuo is a person who has spent |
| 0:15.5 | her life doing both, both as an investigator and living her everyday life. Today we hear about her close encounters with her own death |
| 0:23.1 | and the spirits that may have found her to be a beacon since on the grave talks. |
| 0:28.6 | That's an interesting question. So for about a good year, I was looking for available places in the state of North Carolina that were accessible to, you know, |
| 0:39.4 | multiple teams, basically anybody, because in North Carolina, a lot of the locations, they have |
| 0:46.6 | exclusive contracts with teams, so they're not always available to the public. So I was trying |
| 0:51.5 | to find this place. So that was one big reason why the trivic |
| 0:55.0 | clinic appealed to me was because it was available. And there was no team or group or person |
| 1:01.0 | that had quote unquote ownership of the space. So that was a big draw for me. But also after |
| 1:08.0 | the first investigation there, I mean, for the most part, there wasn't a lot of |
| 1:12.2 | activity, but then we had one moment where, you know, I was listening to the, to the recording |
| 1:18.0 | afterwards, where we were trying to play hide and seek. No, it was tag. My mistake. It was tag. |
| 1:23.9 | We were trying to play tag with the, with one of the child spirits in the basement. And I said, touch one of us. Let us know who's it. And you hear this little voice go, tag. So I was hooked after that. What about Yotsie? Have you ever tried playing Yotsie with the ghosts? That would be. You know, believe it or not, I've never actually played Vyazzi, so I would need to learn how to play it before trying to play with it with a ghost. |
| 1:51.1 | Give me some of the background of the trivet clinic. I mean, tell me the history as far as you know what. |
| 1:56.0 | How far does it go back? Let's take it to the beginning and kind of go through its lifespan and how we got to where |
| 2:01.4 | it is today from 2018 when you started looking into it. Yes, so the Trivick Clinic has one of the most |
| 2:07.9 | interesting histories of any location that I've been to. So it was built and opened in 1932 by a |
| 2:15.1 | doctor named Dr. William Amos Trivet. And he had been studying medicine. |
| 2:21.3 | He studied medicine, I believe, in Baltimore and Virginia and was kind of going all over |
| 2:25.6 | the place up north. But then he came back to North Carolina because his parents, you know, |
| 2:29.6 | their health was going downhill as as it happens when people age. And yeah, so he was originally |
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