Hello and one to the Red Box Politics Podcast on The Times, I'm Matt Chorley, going for a walk again.

This time with the first of our interviews with Tory leadership contenders, there are so many of them, I'm not sure time will permit for

us to do chats with all of them. But I'm delighted to be joined in St James's Park where you'd like to go for a walk by

Rory Stewart. Hello, nice to see you mad and really happy that hi there good to see who thank you

people saying hello already well you've turned into a celebrity well it's very weird I was

in I was in Belfast Airport you'll say I was in Londondond and looking at an

skill in a dairy and suddenly for the first time in my life I had I think 15 people

come up to me just while I was trying to eat my all day breakfast at 9 o'clock in

the evening at Belfast Airport.

Just explain for people who are slightly bemused by all of this.

You went from being the Prisons Minister promising to resign if you didn't tackle unrest

in prisons.

Catapolted into the cabinet as international development

secretary thanks to Gavin Williamson may or may not

have been leaking from the cabinet.

And now you're sort of one of the most talked about contenders to be there. have been

very strange,

to the talk about contenders to be the Tory leader.

And it's been very strange.

I mean, essentially what seems to have happened is that because I've been going around talking to people, recording it very

ineptly and amortally on my phone, I've managed to get people really interested in the idea of politicians communicating with the public.

You just need to navigate away around a... Is that a goose?

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