Sometimes you feel crazy in love with your spouse.

Other times your spouse might drive you crazy.

And sometimes it's both all at once.

Marriage is a wild ride, but it's a beautiful grand adventure as well.

So navigate all the ups and downs and in-betweens with crazy little thing called marriage, a podcast

from Focus on the Family. I'm Erin Smalley, and I co-host the podcast with my husband, Dr. Greg

Smalley. We sit down with amazing guests to talk about all things marriage, like how do we

stay connected or how do we continue growing as individuals or as a couple?

Each episode will help you tackle problems you may be facing or just help you make your relationship even sweeter.

Listen to crazy little thing called marriage and other podcasts from Focus on the Family at FocusOnthefamily.com slash podcast.

That's FocusOnThe family.com slash podcast. That's focus on the family.com

slash podcast. When was the last time you had a heart to heart where you just kind of

unveiled everything for your spouse? Was it a good thing, a hard thing? For a lot of

couples, I think, it never, ever happens. I'm John Fuller, along with Greg and Aaron Smalley,

who lead our marriage team. And Aaron, I think a lot of couples just kind of have this thing

where they coexist, but they don't really connect. In your counseling experience,

I know that you see couples who have struggled, but if I recall from your story, you and Greg

didn't really connect right away very well in your marriage. We had a lot of mismanaged conflict

early on, and we didn't wrap back around after conflict. So mismanaged conflict early on, and we didn't wrap back around after conflict.

So mismanaged means what?

Oh, combat.

It was anyone who's heard us or read anything about us, we struggled big time.

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