Volt Typhoon and the new cyber war

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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News, Society & Culture, Politics

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🗓️ 3 July 2024

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

A recent large-scale attack on an NHS provider by the Russian based criminal group Qilin has exposed lingering vulnerabilities in our digital infrastructure - but an ongoing Chinese state sponsored attack, known as Volt Typhoon, has been described by US officials as a game changer in the realm of cyber warfare. Emma Beals speaks to former founding chief executive of the UK National Cyber Security Centre Professor Ciaran Martin and senior fellow for global cyber policy at the Council on Foreign Relations Tarah Wheeler to find out how much is at stake on this digital battleground, and what we can do about it. Support This Is Not A Drill on Patreon to get early episodes, merchandise and more. Go to Incogni.com/notadrill to get an exclusive 60% off your annual plan with Incogni. Written and presented by Emma Beals. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Incidental music by Simon Williams. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production. podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	The NHS strives to keep us healthy and out of harm's way in the real world.
0:11.3	Digitally it's another story.
0:14.3	These serious vulnerabilities
0:15.8	could put patients' medical information
0:17.9	and even their lives at risk.
0:20.8	Our intelligence and cybersecurity agency have discovered that the
0:24.8	CCP has hacked into American critical infrastructure for the sole purpose
0:29.1	disabling and destroying our critical infrastructure in the event of a conflict over Taiwan, for example.
0:37.0	This summer is cyber attack on ENERGY's hospitals disrupted operations and patient care and is likely to have
0:45.0	had lethal consequences.
0:47.5	This attack on critical civilian infrastructure shows the impact of attacks that may increase
0:52.3	in a new era of wartime cyber sabotage.
0:55.1	So how are cyber attacks in the threat of cyber war changing in an age of
1:00.0	geopolitical competition and conflict? Just how worried should we be,
1:04.2	and what can we do about it?
1:06.2	I'm Immobiles, and this is not a drill. Thank you. Kiastama, who's likely to be the UK's next Prime Minister, said that cyber security and
1:37.2	information war will be a priority in defense and national security policy.
1:41.6	In an age of heightening great power competition, the NHS hackers are
1:45.1	likely to be Russian protected criminal hacker groups, part of the trend of foreign state-backed
1:49.7	criminal hacking enterprises that have impacted the Department of Defense, the British Library, and many others.
1:54.8	But the stakes have now been raised with Volt Typhoon. A Chinese state hacker group,
2:00.0	Volt Typhoon, appears to show China taking a different approach to cyber war.
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