The Battle for Kyiv and beyond

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.8 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2024

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

How did the Ukrainian people face down an invasion of unprecedented savagery from Putin’s Russia? And how did the battle for Ukraine’s capital shape the war that followed? Illia Ponomarenko is the author of the new book I Will Show You How It Was: The Story of Wartime Kyiv and former defence correspondent at the Kyiv Independent. He talks to Oz Katerji about the experience of reporting under fire – and what it’s like for a people to defy subjugation. Buy I Will Show You How It Was: The Story of Wartime Kyiv through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund This Is Not A Drill by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. Support This Is Not A Drill on Patreon to get early episodes, merchandise and more. Written and presented by Oz Katerji. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:28.9	C EE. C EE. K. slash claims. In February 2022, 2022, as the full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine began, Vladimir Putin, his Kremlin cronies, and even many
0:45.5	international observers thought defeat was the only likely outcome for Ukraine.
0:50.8	But the Ukrainian people were able to resist, driving the invaders back from
0:56.2	the capital Kyve, and since then doing everything they can to hold off the vast Russian army.
1:04.0	Like him, Putin, please.
1:06.0	We don't want you. We don't want war and we don't want you.
1:10.0	But if you come, it will be very bad because I know our army I know our people now it's
1:18.9	panic but tomorrow it will be all in one and it will be very bad for you.
1:26.0	Please go out from here, just go out.
1:31.0	Ukrainian journalist Ilia Ponomarenco has been covering the war since it began in 2014 and became a global voice in his former role as defense correspondent for the Kyiv Independent.
1:44.0	Now, his new book, I will show you how it was,
1:47.7	the story of wartime Kyiv gives us a first person
1:51.4	perspective of how the Ukrainian people face down and invading Russia,
1:57.2	and how the Battle for Kyiv displayed the bravery and capability with which Ukraine continues to hold out against the odds.
2:06.2	My own documentary, The Battle for Kyiv, which is due for release later this year, also follows
2:12.3	the same story. More than two years into an all-out
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