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Francis Meyer is Senior Fellow in Catholic Studies at the Ethics and Public Policy Center. Previously, he was editor-in-chief of National Catholic Register.

His new book has the title True Confessions, Voices of Faith from a Life in the church. It has an introduction by Archbishop

Shaput, our topic today. Welcome, Fran. Thanks very much, Mark. Glad to be here. I'm on a

first name basis with you because you're the insider in the first things team. The Archbishop's introduction, it's not just a casual

nod of support, I should say, substantive. And it goes into actually his own role models of St.

Francis and St. Augustine. And he offers, too, some biographical information about your work with him

for some 26 years. Would you like to

say a word to start about your experience with him, Fran? Yeah, I was a delight. I mean, I think he's

in my lifetime, he's been one of the great blessings. Shepu has an extraordinary ability to

draw a variety of good people around him. I saw that again and

again during the years we worked together, but I worked for him. He's a great leader. I mean,

there was never any question about who was who was in charge in the room, but he listened very

carefully, and I saw him adjust his thinking and his actions according to the

competence of the people that he was listening to again and again. I mean, the CFOs he got,

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