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no bull and the aftermath.

So the threat level is now only from rockets from the sky.

There's no battleships to the south and there's no tank army to the east that is barreling

down the city.

So as of 8 10 days ago the local military district and the government mayor basically said

this isn't going to be happening anytime soon.

Now this isn't to say that it can't happen.

It's entirely possible that the Russians do much better than expected in the Dumbass and

then they break through and they blitz through Nikolayev and they start surrounding Odessa

again and that is within the realm of possibility but doesn't look likely now and it won't happen

for another month or a month and a half if it does.

I'm Benjamin Whitteson this is the LawFair podcast April 26th, 2022.

Vladislav Davidson is a journalist and author.

He is a New Yorker, a Parisian and he is an Odessa resident.

He's the author of From Odessa with Love, Political and Literary Essays in post-Soviet

Ukraine and he joined me in the virtual jungle studio from Odessa where he is covering the

war.

It's a wide ranging conversation about the course of the war, the state of life in Odessa

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