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Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin

Vlad Tenev (Part 2)

Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin

Rick Rubin

Arts, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2026

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Returning to continue his conversation in Part Two, Vlad Tenev is the co-founder and CEO of Robinhood. He launched the trading platform alongside Baiju Bhatt in 2013 with the goal of making investing more accessible through commission-free stock trading for everyday investors. Under his leadership, Robinhood expanded beyond equities into options, ETFs, cryptocurrency, banking products, and private market investing, and the company went public in July 2021. In addition to Robinhood, Tenev is the co-founder and executive chairman of Harmonic, an AI-driven platform focused on organizing and analyzing business and market data. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: AGZ https://DrinkAG1.com/tetra ------ Squarespace https://Squarespace.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Athletic Nicotine https://www.AthleticNicotine.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Lectio 365 https://Lectio365.com ------ Sign up to receive Tetragrammaton Transmissions https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter

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0:00.0

Tetragrammaton

0:02.0

Tetracket

0:10.0

Tetrameter I think that mathematics, card mathematics isn't computational at all. It's almost like art. It's really about figuring out an insight, a non-obvious insight that unlocks a problem. Yeah, and I think the reason

0:42.9

that I like it is because it's all about figuring things out. And I think that insight,

0:53.0

there's a lot of it that's kind of mechanical. It once you have it you just turn the crank and you get the

0:57.6

you get the proof or you get the answer yeah that special insight can be really

1:02.9

really magical and to me it's just about figuring things out so the reason I

1:08.6

actually got into mathematics if you, it's because of physics.

1:13.0

When I was a kid, one of the first books that my dad sort of encouraged me to read was Stephen Hawking's

1:19.4

brief history of time. And that book deals with kind of the big questions, right? What happened

1:26.2

before the Big Bang? Why is the universe the way it is?

1:30.1

You have this constant that measures the flatness of the universe, right? And if it's like,

1:38.9

basically like too high, the universe is going to expand at an increasing rate and everything is just

1:48.1

going to just die out in this like expansionary death. If it's too low, the universe is going to

1:55.3

re-collapse again. We would have never had galaxies and stars. And it turns out if we measure it, ours is exactly one.

2:03.7

It's like immeasurably close to one in this equilibrium between like death by expansion and death by contraction, which is crazy.

2:12.4

If it's a little bit off, we would have never existed, right?

2:17.4

If the laws of physics weren't exactly what they are, we probably would have never formed.

2:27.1

Yeah, because, and also, the universe has to be the exact age where one set of stars would have had to form and die and collapse, and we would

2:39.0

have been, because our bodies are made of supernova debris. So there has to have been, at least,

2:45.2

we have to be second generation in a sense. So those were the questions that kind of motivated me.

2:51.5

Like, where did we come from?

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