Welcome back to the Spin Cycle Podcast, everybody.

I'm Kaylee Fretz.

Today on the show, the Vuelta is underway.

Vingeguard is back, and Denny van Pappel cannot stop collecting yellow cards.

I am joined on this incredibly special episode, unique episode, by sitting next to me in real life,

in Australia, Ian Trelor.

Gosh, these holograms are getting good, aren't they? It's just incredible stuff. Yeah, no, I'm here. And so are you. I specifically, you're always here.

Imagine. But I flew in this morning. I'm here in Melbourne for a week or so, you know, doing some

strategizing this week. And bravely came out to the distant wilds

of Melbourne's inner suburbia. Yes. To grab a beer and record a podcast. And record a podcast.

So if you're watching on YouTube, you get to see Ian and I sit next to each other. And from across

the world, Johnny Long. Hello. I feel like a hologram because this is not usually how this works.

You two are like an odd double act that was previously wearing matching, almost matching

plaid shirts, but then out of shame, Ian switched his jacket.

And then you're drinking very milky beers, so not really sure what's going on, but we're

going to go with it.

And it's like 8 in the morning for you or 9 in the morning for you, which is normally

my role in this is to be sort of, you know,

but I'm father of none, so this is early.

And my role in this is normally not being here.

Can I ask you both to set the scene because there's some nice lighting, it's clearly the evening,

you're clearly in a beverage place. Ian, set the scene, please. We are at Melbourne's home of hazy and New England IPA

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