Vision Without Execution Is Useless (Pat Lencioni Explains)
Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew
Shawn Johnson + Andrew East
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🗓️ 2 April 2026
⏱️ 64 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | What's up, everybody? Welcome back to a couple things, interviews. With Sean and Andrew. |
| 0:03.8 | Another wonderful guest today. We have Pat Lincione. That's right. This guy is a legend. |
| 0:09.2 | Patrick Lincione is a legend. He's written many books in the business realm. And it's all about |
| 0:16.3 | teamwork, leadership. He really has some amazing insights. We'll link some of his books down below. |
| 0:22.4 | But we talked to him today about ways of working. So we came up with this test that kind of |
| 0:27.3 | identifies what your way of working is. It's really insightful, really helpful. Talks about like |
| 0:33.4 | dreamers and visionaries versus doers. And even in our own life, we started understanding people differently and better because of this. |
| 0:40.9 | One of my favorite takeaways of this interview was actually realizing in the middle of the |
| 0:45.9 | interview because of Pat, what our strengths and weaknesses were and how we were actually |
| 0:50.6 | utilizing the wrong things within our business. |
| 0:53.7 | Patrick is amazing. He's a local here in Nashville, and we're super grateful he gave us his time. We hope you learned something today. Without further ado, Patrick Lincione. It is an honor to meet you. I have read your books. I think it was actually the first business book I read was yours. You know, I love hearing that. A lot of schools are using it now. Yeah. Because I wrote them to be short and to get people's attention. They're all stories. And you learn that way. Yeah. And so more and more schools are using that. And the kids, my friend, my youngest son is a sophomore in college and his friends will call, I'm using your dad's book in my business class. And it's so funny. Wow. I think there's a lot of things we can talk about. I specifically want to talk about teamwork and the concept of that because we've been having some fascinating conversations around what does it look like to have a healthy team to be a team player. And then also correlating that into the team that is a family and I know you've |
| 1:46.2 | done a lot of work and thinking around that so I'm excited for the most important team the bookie |
| 1:50.4 | that you brought in literally is like the definition of our life but it's the three big questions |
| 1:54.5 | for the frantic family um we're a frantic family well I can't wait to talk you about it too now |
| 1:59.9 | knowing your your working genius types are and what my wife and I went through, we look back |
| 2:04.3 | and we go, man, if we had known this back then, it is crazy. |
| 2:08.6 | Okay, so we said this off camera, but I just took your test and I am, I can't even remember. |
| 2:14.1 | Invention and discernment. |
| 2:15.3 | Yes, ID and Andrew, of course. |
| 2:18.3 | Is galvanizer in wonder? |
| 2:20.6 | What you said is extremely rare, which you will now tell me for the rest of eternity. |
| 2:26.0 | The rarest type, and one of my sons is that type. |
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