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🗓️ 21 April 2024
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Mihika Kapoor is a design-engineer-PM hybrid at Figma, where she was an early PM on FigJam and is now spearheading development on a new product at the company that’s coming out this June. She’s known as the go-to person at Figma for leading new 0-to-1 products, and, as you’ll hear in our conversation, beloved by everyone she works with. Her background includes founding Design Nation, a national nonprofit focused on democratizing design education for undergraduates; spearheading product launches at Meta; and community building within the NYC AI startup scene. In our conversation, we discuss:
• How to effectively take ideas from 0 to 1 at larger companies
• How to craft a compelling vision
• The importance of vulnerability and feedback
• The role of intuition and product sense in making decisions
• How to practically communicate your vision
• How to balance collaboration and strong opinions
• Advice for building a strong team culture
• Pivoting with grace and enthusiasm
• The current AI revolution and its impact on PM
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• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mihikakapoor/
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In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Mihika’s background
(04:29) Core attributes of great product managers
(07:34) Crafting a compelling vision
(12:12) The vision behind FigJam
(18:25) Delivering a vision without design or engineering skills
(21:52) Creating momentum
(26:36) The importance of strong conviction
(27:45) Direct communication
(32:48) Building hype
(42:20) Immersing yourself in user insights
(47:16) Operationalizing user insights
(50:33) Caring deeply about what you build
(54:01) Finding passion in your work
(57:00) Building a strong culture
(01:07:07) Pivoting with grace and enthusiasm
(01:11:48) Design Nation
(01:13:15) Mihika’s weaknesses
(01:16:07) Building new products at larger companies
(01:20:50) Coming up with a great idea
(01:22:49) The key to going from 0 to 1
(01:26:47) Spreading the idea across the company
(01:29:15) Closing thoughts
(01:32:11) Lightning round
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Referenced:
• Figma: https://www.figma.com/
• Sho Kuwamoto on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shokuwamoto/
• The Medici Effect: What Elephants and Epidemics Can Teach Us About Innovation: https://www.amazon.com/Medici-Effect-Preface-Discussion-Guide/dp/1633692949
• FigJam: https://www.figma.com/figjam/
• Cognition: https://www.cognition-labs.com/
• Devin: https://www.cognition-labs.com/introducing-devin
• David Hoang on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dhoang2/
• Replit: https://replit.com/
• The Making of Maker Week at Figma: https://www.figma.com/blog/the-making-of-maker-week/
• Yuhki Yamashita on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yuhki/
• Jeff Bezos’ Simple Decision-Making Framework Will Give You Clarity, Conviction, and Courage: https://medium.com/illumination/jeff-bezos-simple-decision-making-framework-will-give-you-clarity-conviction-and-courage-adf8d0183625
• Alice Ching on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceching/
• Karl Jiang on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karl-jiang-4a07424/
• Kris Rasmussen on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristopherrasmussen/
• Config: https://config.figma.com/
• Dev Mode: https://www.figma.com/dev-mode/
• Asana: https://asana.com/
• Julie Zhuo on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-zhuo/
• StrengthsFinder test: https://www.gyfted.me/personality-quiz/strengthsfinder-test-free
• Dylan Field on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylanfield/
• Vishal Shah on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vishalnshah/
• Design Disruptors: https://www.invisionapp.com/films/design-disruptors
• Daniel Burka on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dburka/
• Jamie Myrold on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiemyrold/
• Design Nation: https://dn.businesstoday.org/
• Stuart Weitzman on X: https://twitter.com/StuartWeitzman
• Joe Gebbia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jgebbia/
• Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google): https://www.lennyspodcast.com/building-a-long-and-meaningful-career-nikhyl-singhal-meta-google/
• Jambot: https://www.figma.com/community/widget/1274481464484630971/jambot
• Hestia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hestia
• Harry Potter series: https://www.amazon.com/Harry-Potter-Paperback-Box-Books/dp/0545162076
• Pachinko: https://www.amazon.com/Pachinko-National-Book-Award-Finalist/dp/1455563927/
• Creativity, Inc.: Overcoming the Unseen Forces That Stand in the Way of True Inspiration: https://www.amazon.com/Creativity-Inc-Expanded-Overcoming-Inspiration/dp/0593594649
• The Overstory: https://www.amazon.com/Overstory-Novel-Richard-Powers/dp/039335668X
• Severance on AppleTV+: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/severance/umc.cmc.1srk2goyh2q2zdxcx605w8vtx
• Dune on Max: https://www.max.com/movies/dune/e7dc7b3a-a494-4ef1-8107-f4308aa6bbf7
• Dune: Part 2: https://www.dunemovie.com/
• Arc browser: https://arc.net/
• Pika: https://pika.art/home
• The power of recognition: Why you should celebrate your employees | Josh Miller: https://www.lennyspodcast.com/videos/the-power-of-recognition-why-you-should-celebrate-your-employees-josh-miller/
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0:00.0 | I asked on Twitter, who's the best product manager you've worked with? |
0:03.0 | You were the most mentioned. |
0:04.6 | My take is that your scope is the world. |
0:06.8 | Nothing should ever perceive as being out of bounds. |
0:10.6 | V-P-P-P-A product at Figma told me, |
0:12.1 | Mejica is really great at creating a vision and getting people to see what she sees. |
0:16.0 | We lean heavily into designing and prototyping even before a project gets a green light. |
0:22.0 | If you and your team do your job correctly, |
0:24.9 | what does the world look like? |
0:26.5 | Say somebody wants to make their culture more entrepreneurial, |
0:30.0 | what does it take? |
0:30.9 | We have this concept called Maker Week, |
0:32.3 | which is our internal hackathon, giving people the breathing space to see ahead into the horizon and be wildly ambitious. |
0:39.0 | Today my guest is Mejica Kapoor. |
0:45.0 | Mejica is a design engineering PM hybrid at Figma, |
0:49.0 | where she was an early PM on Fig Jam |
0:51.0 | and is now spearheading development of a new product that the company is going to launch in June. |
0:54.6 | She's known as the go-to-person at Figma for leading new zero-to-one products and as you'll hear in our |
1:00.0 | conversation is beloved by everybody that works with her. |
1:03.6 | Prior to Figma, Mejica founded Design Nation, |
1:06.4 | a national nonprofit that democratizes undergraduate student |
1:09.4 | access to a design education, |
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