On this episode of the Ben Greenfield Fitness Podcast, one of the reasons I'm really interested

in it is because we have to find these good uses for it, for education and training,

before everyone uses it to become worse people.

I've realized how upside down this world is more and more in the past couple years.

There's always a way to adapt, but you have to honor that sometimes this time to stop

doing things.

We are both on greatest in the world's 100 most influential health and fitness people,

and we're not there anymore.

Try to look us up.

Health, performance, nutrition, longevity, ancestral living, biohacking, and much more.

My name is Ben Greenfield.

Welcome to the show.

Well, I've been put to shame.

My guest on today's podcast has a much better, deeper, richer podcasting voice than I do,

and he's also a wonderful musician, a Renaissance man, a dear friend, a man after my own heart.

The great Abel James.

We had a fun conversation.

You're going to love.

Now, before we jump in, one of the things that you should know is that today's podcast

is brought to you by a pretty cool new little immune product that we've been working on over

at my company, Keon.

Really cool product.

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