Hey, oh, oh, oh, come on and take a seat on the virtual couch. Hey, everybody, welcome to episode 320 of the virtual couch. I am your host, Tony Overbay. I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist, a certified mindful habit coach, writer-seeker, husband, father of four. Man, Nate, I, when I get to the part where I'm an ultramarathon runner, it's been three or four years since I ran an ultramarathon. So analyze that. Can I say that anymore? I mean, you did it. Okay. You mean, I have. I am an ultramarathon runner. I am not currently running ultramarathons. Yeah. So maybe that's my imposter syndrome. Is it? Maybe. But anyway, welcome Nate Christensen. Boy, that's a way to get into the intro. Welcome to your fifth episode. Three on the virtual couch. One on waking up the narcissism. And is this your fourth on the virtual couch? Sounds about right. Okay. So when you get to five on the virtual couch, I give you a new hat. Really?

Yeah, yeah. So we're getting close.

I'm really excited.

I know, right?

Welcome, though. And before we get started, this is episode 320, and I love having Nate on. We're doing something a little bit different. Did we come up with an official name? Is this Nate and Tony's book club? Or was that just something we were kicking around? I don't know. That sounds pretty good.

Okay, it does.

So Nate, and what I love about this kind of an episode is by Nate and Tony's book club, Nate reads the book.

And then Tony hears Nate talk about book. And Tony talks about Nate talking about book. So it's... That's really cool. That's like... It is, but it's so good for me because you like reading books,

and I like hearing people talk about reading books.

So I think it's a match made in heaven.

And before we get to that, I will... for me because you like reading books and I like hearing people talk about reading books. So I think it's a match made in heaven.

And before we get to that, I will encourage anyone to go to.

I have two different links that I want to talk about.

One is I did a marriage workshop a few weeks ago and it is behind a very small paywall, $19.

And I will refund your money so fast if you get nothing out of it. But it is at tonyoverbay.com slash workshop. And in 90 minutes, basically, Nate, what I've

done is told everyone why we don't have the tools to show up as our best selves in our

relationship. And then what those tools are. And then within 90 minutes, change their

entire marriage and their entire life.

Wow.

So maybe that's, maybe giving money back guarantees on that.

Maybe I'm going to hold that back a little bit.

But I do talk about why we don't have the tools that we don't have because no one has

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