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Finding Genius Podcast

Viral Lessons from Vaccines and the Immune Response: Vaccine Expert Paul Offit Talks Viruses

Finding Genius Podcast

Richard Jacobs

Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.41K Ratings

🗓️ 24 September 2020

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Paul Offit has been working in vaccine research for about forty years and listeners are lucky to hear a sampling of his knowledge of infectious viruses in this podcast. He offers another unique perspective of virus interactions from his vaccine research history.

With humor and clarity, he discusses

  • How a host's immune response to viral infection and determine latency more than the virus in some cases,
  • What the viral load and inoculum effect determine regarding degrees of virulence, and
  • What are some viral cell-entry traits that merit important consideration in vaccine development, such as COVID-19's fusing protein.

Author, researcher, and pediatrician Paul Offit is the director of The Vaccine Education Center and an attending physician with the Division of Infectious Diseases at Children's hospital of Philadelphia. Most recently, he authored Overkill: When Modern Medicine Goes Too Far.

He's currently working on a biography of vaccinology specialist Maurice Hilleman and an article on the process for COVID-19 vaccine pros and cons and the prospects for a path to a safe vaccination. He offers answers to Richard's questions on virology from a different vantage point, often emphasizing the role the immune response process plays in determining virus behavior. Yet he still is intrigued by virus activity, noting the fascination he has with bacteriophages and their therapeutic potential. 

His take on latency in different viruses is especially enlightening, and he discusses how herpes simplex is latent until some sort of stress weakens the immune system. He comments that its latent phase is fascinating as it has the ability to express some but not all proteins during the latent phase. He adds that it comes out of latency because of the host's immunological surveillance condition: the immune system keeps it from activating until the host's immunity decreases or is weak and the virus is able to cause symptom expression.

He also explains virus behavior by articulating how the immunodeficiency virus evolved, mutating enough in the first infection to transmit to someone else and so on, all the while learning how to bind to that certain receptor and suppress the immune system and evade it by constantly changing the code protein, Therefore, HIV infection can mimic infection by a several different viruses at once, and in some ways exhibits the "perfect virus" process for survival.

He also shares great insights into vaccination research, viral entry methods, and virulence factors in virus evolution. Listen in for an entertaining description of how our immune system handles viruses. 

For more about Dr. Offit, see his website: paul-offit.com.

Available on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/2Os0myK

Transcript

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0:28.8

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0:30.4

This is the Finding Genius Podcast.

0:33.0

That is Richard Jacobs.

0:35.0

Hello, this is Richard Jacobs with the Finding Genius Podcast.

0:41.0

My guest today is a returning guest, Paul Offett.

0:44.0

He's director of the Vaccine Education Center and an attending physician in the Division of

0:49.5

Infectious Diseases at Children's Hospital in Philadelphia.

0:53.6

He has a very long history in the fields of virology

0:56.6

and immunology, many accolades, many, many designations,

1:01.0

top person to speak to and very glad to have him on this call.

1:05.3

He's also going to be part of the virus book that I've been interviewing that you'll

1:09.8

be hearing, so I'm going to be asking him a lot of the same questions I've asked others. But Paul, thanks for coming. How you doing?

1:16.2

I'm doing good. Thanks for asking me. Yeah, no problem. Okay. Well, very good. Tell me a little bit about your background. I know it's incredibly extensive, but what got you interested in bioscience and then in particular viruses at some point?

1:29.0

Well, the person that got me interested in viruses was Stanley Plotkin.

1:32.6

I mean, when I came to the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia to do a fellowship in infectious

1:36.8

diseases, he had the year before basically invented the RA--3 strain of Rubella vaccine.

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