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Violence, the Police, and Black Joy

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News, Politics, News Commentary

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2020

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Virginia Heffernan talks to Georgetown law professor Paul Butler, former trial attorney with the US Department of Justice and author of Chokehold: Policing Black Men, about the events in Kenosha and the Black Lives Matter movement, criminal justice, and what it means to celebrate black joy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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Why in this nation, in black Americans, wake up knowing that they can lose their lives

0:05.0

and of course, you're just living their life?

0:07.0

Part of the point of freedom is to be free from brutality, from injustice, from racism,

0:13.0

and all of its manifestations.

0:17.0

This president's policies are not about immigration, it's about ethnicity and racism.

0:22.0

We fought Jim Crow with the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act,

0:26.0

yet who we continue to confront racism from our past and in our present,

0:30.0

which is why we must hold everyone from the highest offices to our own families accountable

0:36.0

for racist words and deeds and kill racism what it is wrong.

0:44.0

Hello and welcome to Trumpcast, I'm Virginia Heffernan.

0:47.0

I just want to start today's show with a word about our producer Melissa Kaplan, singer, knife-thrower, activist,

0:55.0

longtime journalist Melissa brings discipline and sensitivity, virtuosity and imagination

1:01.0

to the making of Trumpcast.

1:03.0

They also bring vast reserves of punky DIY spirit.

1:07.0

And since COVID, they've been booking all the guests and producing basically everything you hear on the show

1:13.0

from the clips to the ads to the voices, including mine, which sounds suspiciously good

1:19.0

once Melissa edits and sweetens it a little.

1:22.0

They're like a millennial answer to punk, a kind of DIY spirit who can actually play the instruments.

1:28.0

Anyway, I had to give Melissa Kaplan a big thank you today.

1:32.0

I also have to stop sounding so elagic and valid history and as if Trumpcast might be ending it's...

1:40.0

It's very odd to be in the suspended state of not knowing what the next season of Trumpcast might be

1:48.0

and whether the show might, for instance, have a different focus or a different name.

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