The following podcast contains explicit language.

Welcome to Mom and Dad are Fighting Slate's Parenting Podcasts for Thursday, May 16th, the

Violating the Uber Pool Code edition. I'm Gabriel Roth. I'm the editorial director of Slate

podcasts. And I'm the father of Leo, who is four and three quarters, and Eliza, who is eight.

I'm Rebecca Levoy, a journalist and podcaster in New Hampshire, and I am Mom to Henry, who is 17, Teddy, who is 16, and my stepdaughter, Lily, who is 18. And I'm Carvelle Wallace, a writer and podcaster in Oakland, California. And I'm the father to Georgia, who is 13, and Ezra, who is 16. Today on our show, we have a question about what to tell the kids when you're getting divorced,

but you're still going to live in the same house.

Plus, as always, we'll have triumphs and fails.

We'll make recommendations.

On Slate Plus, I'm going to answer a question somebody raised on our Facebook group about why I talk the way I do.

But let's start with triumphs and fails. Rebecca, do you want to go first? Do you have a triumph?

Do you have a fail? What do you have?

I've got a triumph. And it's related to something that happened this weekend. I was in Brooklyn doing a podcast show.

And my mom came. She came down from Vermont and stayed with a friend of the family who lives in Manhattan. And she came to the show. And it was like the perfect situation in which for me to interact with my mom. You know, as you know, we have a complicated relationship that sometimes

our communication crosses wires. It's putting it very diplomatically. But in the light of what happened,

I want to sort of keep it in that frame. And it was basically like an ideal situation for me to

interact with my mom. She was coming to a thing. So there was an activity. And then all of the hanging

out afterwards, there were like a lot of really interesting people for her to talk to. So it was like I got to spend time with my mom with basically like 30 buffers around. You know, it was like it was basically perfect. But the thing that was such a triumph was really my mom's triumph. I learned something amazing about her that I can't stop talking about because it

just kind of like blows my mind. She's kind of a Luddite. If you were to do a walkthrough of my mom's

house, you would wonder if it were perhaps 1870 or 2019. You might not be able to tell. And she was a late

adopter to all kinds of technology. And she's the kind of person like she has her iPhone like in one of those giant otterbox cases. And it's like from like six iPhones ago. And it's always frozen because she refuses to delete any of her voicemails or photos because she wants to like remember what her grandkids sounded like like six years ago. So it's her phone situation.

It's like always a disaster. But one of the things that she has learned to do in the last

couple years is she started since my stepdad died. She's been doing a little more traveling.

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