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🗓️ 12 April 2018
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I’m joined by Vintage Black Glamour author, the fabulous Nichelle Gainer — a self-described “black history encyclopedia”.
We discuss how what started out as a research project for a novel inspired by her great aunt, Mildred Taylor, a model in the 1950s evolved into the Vintage Black Glamour Tumblr site in 2011. I learn about the history of black beauty pageants, the ‘Four Goddesses’: Josephine Baker, Lena Horne, Dorthy Dandridge and Ertha Kitt and why they’ve been able to maintain icon status decades later. We talk about the “It Girls” of the Harlem Renaissance like A’Lelia Walker and Blanche Dunne, roles black actresses have had to take in Hollywood, and the importance of keeping these stories alive for future generations. Nichelle tells me about growing up in South Jersey in the 70s and 80s and why when it comes to her hair — you get what you pay for. Links below for deeper dives on all the people we discusses together.
Nichelle’s Wonderful Books that I Can’t Recommend Enough: http://amzn.to/2CltqEs (Vintage Black Glamour) http://amzn.to/2oxy8Wh (Gentleman’s Quarters) Get Familiar with the Four Goddesses (Rare Photos) Josephine Baker http://vintageblackglamour.tumblr.com/search/josephine+baker Lena Horne http://vintageblackglamour.tumblr.com/tagged/Lena-Horne Dorothy Dandridge http://vintageblackglamour.tumblr.com/tagged/Dorothy-Dandridge Eartha Kitt http://vintageblackglamour.tumblr.com/tagged/Eartha-Kitt
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Key Figures of the Harlem Renaissance (1920s-30s)
James Van Der Zee — photographer of the Harlem Renaissance http://bit.ly/2GLLKEY http://vintageblackglamour.tumblr.com/tagged/James-Van-Der-Zee
Carl Van Vechten — another key photographer and author of the Harlem Renaissance, he was German and slightly controversial http://vintageblackglamour.tumblr.com/tagged/Carl-Van-Vechten https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Van_Vechten
Blanche Dunne — socialite and actress known as one of the most beautiful and fashionable women of the Renaissancehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanche_Dunn
Madame CJ Walker — entrepreneur, first Black Woman to become a millionaire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madam_C._J._Walker
A’Lelia Walker—Madame CJ Walker’s daughter, patron of the arts & hostess of infamous bathtub gin parties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%27Lelia_Walker
Other People Mentioned Diahann Carol — actress http://vintageblackglamour.tumblr.com/search/Diahann+Carroll
Katherine Dunham — dancer, activist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Dunham
Carmen de Lavallade— dancer, choreographer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmen_de_Lavallade
Cicely Tyson — one of the few actresses of her time who sported natural hair looks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicely_Tyson
Donyale Luna — First black model to be on a Vogue cover, she had a wild life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donyale_Luna
Edward Enninful — First and current EIC of British Vogue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Enninful
Fredi Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredi_Washington
Resources/Books/Videos Mentioned
Schomburg Research Center (in Harlem with online archives) https://www.nypl.org/locations/schomburg
On Her Own Ground: The Life and Times of Madam C.J. Walker (written by her great-granddaughter) http://amzn.to/2GLz4hg
Black and Beautiful (Book on Black Models) http://amzn.to/2F4tBF4
Lena Horne on Dick Cavett https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKLErsgF_P4
Hair Khamit Kinks — Where Nichelle gets her ‘baby curl twists’ http://khamitkinks.com
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0:00.0 | Hello, it's Brooke Devard, and you're listening to the Naked Beauty Podcast, happy Black History Month. |
0:05.6 | We're at the very tail end. |
0:07.2 | Listen, for me, every month is Black History Month. |
0:09.4 | It's not just contained in February, but a lot of great things have happened this month for Black Excellence, |
0:15.8 | Black Panther, of course. I just saw it. I cannot believe how amazing that movie was, how beautiful the set design was, the |
0:23.2 | set design was, the costume design, the hair, |
0:26.2 | the makeup, the actors are just stunning. |
0:28.3 | You're just sitting there like so enchanted the whole time. |
0:30.9 | And I don't even like superhero movies movies to be very clear. I actually |
0:34.0 | hate action sci-fi that's not a genre I typically identify with but I loved Black Panther. |
0:42.0 | One of the things I appreciated most about Black Panther was the costume design. |
0:45.5 | I've read every single interview I can with the costume designer, Ruth Carter. |
0:49.4 | She is a legend. |
0:50.2 | She's done a lot of Spike Lee films. |
0:52.4 | She just goes above and beyond. It's one of those |
0:56.5 | professions that I feel like if I didn't do what I do now I would have been a costume |
1:00.4 | designer because I love film, I love storytelling, I love history, I love film I love storytelling I love history I love |
1:04.7 | fashion and you kind of get to combine all of those things but wow well the |
1:09.3 | script was incredible Ryan Kugler I think he's like 31 years old. I cannot believe what a master of his |
1:15.6 | craft he is already. I think this is the beginning of a franchise similar to what |
1:20.1 | Star Wars is and I just couldn't be happier about the film. |
1:23.6 | Of course this month, former President Barack Obama and former First Lady, |
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