How well did your grandfather know Joseph Kennedy?

They did business together in the bootlaking times,

and my grandfather didn't like him because they were smuggling immigrants

and they were smuggling alcohol or whiskey.

And if they were getting chased and they needed to, you know,

lighten the load, they would throw the people overboard,

the immigrants overboard before the alcohol.

And my grandfather just, you know, hated

Joe Kennedy because of that.

Tori, I got to tell you, man, you are a spitting image of your grandfather in the face. It's kind of trippy. Well, I'll take that as a compliment. It is. It is. I think about that famous

picture. I'll put it in the corner of the screen from the cover

of esquire when he was like a really young man and like when you line that up and then you look at

your face it's like it's all there yeah well like i said thank you i'll take it as a compliment but you guys

have you know for people out there listening i know a lot of people are very into the mafia and

the history and and really all the things that it affected in this country and not just talking about

like crime like you know there's a lot of buildings in new york that went up with the permission

of the mob for example right and you know it doesn't mean though that everyone who's even a fan of that is completely familiar with what is maybe the most unique family history in the history of the Italian-American mafia with the bananas.

Yeah, I mean, and recently, you know, somebody compared the five families you know to basically the founding fathers

i think that's a bit of a stretch but you know i got his uh you know his sentiments where you know

yeah you're right it's it's part of history it's part of american history uh it's part of

history that people seem to be very intrigued with and you know so that's part of

why I'm you know doing this is to get it straight because my grandfather always

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