Hillary appears before Chevrolla. He just says to her, what makes you think you could do this?

There's no, no one's presenting any evidence. No one is calling any witnesses. And within 90 seconds,

Hillary has essentially nodded her head. Yes, I did create this parody of my vice principal.

And in an instant, she is handcuffed. And Lore and Loreen her mother is both shocked and speechless and nearly hysterical at the

sight of her daughter being let out of the courtroom.

It's actually interesting because I was in the car of my friend Matt Cox, bringing him back from recording podcasts a few months ago, and he was telling me about his legal team in prison when he was down there who helped him out with his case and everything.

And he mentioned very casually, like I'd known a couple of them but he

mentions the judge i'm like the judge who's the judge he goes oh judge connahan i'm like that

sounds awfully familiar i'm like should i know him he's like yeah the kid's for cash scandal

and i like almost stopped the car i'm like that guy was helping you in prison he He's like, yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of interesting people in there. I'm like, sure. So I went back and I started looking through all this because I remembered that case. And to me, it's one of the worst crimes I've ever seen. It's like not murder or rape or something. And I went and saw how it originally was reported because I just

knew the case and was familiar with what happened and we'll talk about that today. But you

were at the center of blowing the whistle on this thing. I was at the center of blowing the whistle

on how the judges treated kids in the courtroom.

Judge Conahan's partner in this extraordinary scheme was Mark Schiorella, who was the juvenile court judge up in the Zern County.

And we discovered, through representation of one young woman, 15 years old at the time,

that the denial of kids' constitutional rights were really pervasive and rampant in his courtroom.

The way most people know about kids for cash is about the cash, is about the money that changed

hands between Conahan and Chivorella, a private real estate developer up there who built

a for-profit juvenile detention center and a former co-owner of that facility. That was a parallel

scandal, it turns out, that was going on simultaneously with

what was happening inside Chivorella's courtroom. And they were perhaps in one of those rare

instances, a situation where two parallel lines actually meet.

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