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This is Mark Bauerline with another conversation.

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Ian Rowe is with us today. He is founder of Vertex Partnership Academies, a fellow at American

Enterprise Institute, and former CEO of Public Prep. He's also worked for Teach for America,

the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and MTV,

MTV, the corruptor of the youth.

Yes.

I try.

I try to play my part to make it less corrupt, but we can talk about that.

We need people like you in there.

He has a book just out called Agency, the four-point plan for all children to overcome the victim narrative and discover their pathway to power.

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