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When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

Versailles #75: Destructive Divisions

When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

Zack Twamley

Phd, International Relations, Korean War, European History, 17th Century, 18th Century, Politics, 20th Century, Thirty Years' War, History, 19th Century, War, First World War

4.8773 Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2019

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Between 5 to 10 June 1919, one could be forgiven for imagining that the allies would be far too buys discussing the German counterproposals and their intended reply to do anything else. In fact, what we see on the morning of 5th June is a significant exchange between Paderewski and the big three, as Poland was placed on trial for its recent actions. It was almost as though the big three had nothing else to do, as their attentions were well and truly occupied with this largely unrelated issue.


Or...was it so unrelated? After all, unless the border with Germany and Poland was finalised, and the question of Upper Silesia affirmed, there could be no clarity on the German Treaty as a whole. Furthermore, it was entirely possible that if the Poles were unclear about where they would have to stop in thier claims to nationhood, a conflict could erupt as soon as the peace was signed. As it happened, this conflict did erupt, but between Poles and Soviets rather than Poles and Germans. Solving the borders between the two states was just another divisive mission which the big three would have to accomplish, and it was plain that each individual had a different stake in the debate.


Was it possible that while en route to the resolution of the peace treaty, the big three could get so tied up in other questions equally in need of resolution that they might never make it to the end? Possibly; at the very least, these destructive divisions which always remained under the surface, and which moved the French, Americans and British to grow their own positions on the different aspects of the peace refused to go away. Until compromise could be reached, a final settlement would thus be out of reach altogether.

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0:00.0

Hello there, history friends.

0:01.7

Zach Twomley here for When Dipliancy Fails.

0:04.3

Who is Zach Twomley?

0:05.4

And what is this podcast?

0:06.9

Well, it's a strange time to answer that question.

0:09.3

And it's a strange time to ask it as well, since this is episode 75 of the Versailles

0:13.4

Anniversary Project.

0:14.5

So if you don't know what you're in for today, it is a bit of an odd choice to drop in at this

0:18.6

point. But I won't begrud you for it. Instead I'll say,

0:21.3

Zach Toomley is a podcaster, obviously, an author, a lecturer, a corrector of papers, an

0:27.3

eater of pizzas, a drinker of Pepsi Max and coffee and Guinness and sometimes craft beer

0:33.1

from feeling fancy, an enjoyer of chocolate buttons, a lifter of weights if he's feeling energetic.

0:39.3

But most of all, he's a lover of history, and that is why I have this podcast, and that is why I'm

0:44.1

sure you are here today to listen in with me. Lovers of history have never had a better choice of

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