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Hey there, folks. It is Monday, December 15th. Guilty. Guilty as charged. The verdict is in,

and Brian Walsh has been found guilty of murdering his wife with that. Welcome to this episode

of Amy and T.J. Robs,

let me get your reaction first. It's not what we predicted, but the jury did have two options,

first degree and second degree. They came back this quickly, and they came back with the

harder charge. First degree murder. Murder in the first degree, which is premeditation,

which carries a life without parole sentence for Brian Walsh. So he will be going to prison for the rest of his life. Obviously, he will have a chance to appeal and the judge still has to technically sentence him. But that is what that charge, what that conviction carries in the state of Massachusetts. And yes, I'm,

I'm not totally surprised, but I'm a little surprised. I really did think it would take them

longer even maybe to come up or to agree to the first degree charged unanimously. The second

degree to me, I thought was absolutely a slam dunk, but first degree charged unanimously. The second degree, to me, I thought, was absolutely a slam dunk. But first degree, I'm a little surprised they came back. I guess it would have been about six hours they deliberated in total. And it didn't seem like, at least, based on the verdict that we've not seen, that there was a whole lot of disagreement in the room. And it was six hours? I thought it ended up being less than that. But you said total ended up being six? Correct. I think it was around four hours on Friday that they deliberated. And then about two hours today. So, I mean, under six hours. Under six hours. This trial wrapped up pretty quickly. Folks, we have been watching this, of course, the past two weeks.

Here we are on December 15th, right?

The first day of testimony was December 1st.

So two Mondays ago, when the judge was telling folks it might need to get ready for a three, four-plus week trial, even some concern.

It might bump up into Christmas a little bit.

They flew through the prosecution, at least, their case. The defense put up no witnesses at all.

And all of a sudden, here we are. We get to a short trial and short deliberations. I am,

we gave our predictions, if you will, for what we thought the jury was going to do this this surprised me a little yes how much did it surprise you this surprised me what a bit I think when you add the time to you look we've watched plenty but lawyers folks who do this for a living tell you we have no idea what a jury's going to do.

You try to predict the best you can and try to go by history.

You just don't know.

I don't know.

I thought there was enough doubt, enough head scratching questions raised by the defense that it would at least give them some pause.

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