The Brian Walshe Verdict: “We Find the Defendant Guilty of Murder in the First Degree”
Amy & T.J.
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🗓️ 15 December 2025
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Criminal Defense Attorney Alison Triessl joins Amy and T.J. to discuss today’s sooner than expected guilty verdict in the Brian Walshe trial. Triessl talks about how the defense overplayed its hand, and already had an uphill battle with those devastating and gruesome searches Brian made shortly after his wife Ana’s death. Despite the prosecution’s lackluster presentation, and the lack of a body or known cause of death, it took the jury less than 6 hours to return a guilty verdict.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:02.3 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:06.3 | Welcome, everyone, to this episode of Amy and T.J. Presents. |
| 0:12.1 | It is Monday, December 15th. |
| 0:13.7 | And wow, we certainly got a verdict today quicker than expected, at least on where we stood, and not the verdict that |
| 0:24.6 | you and I predicted, T.J. No, I was a little surprised how quick it was and what they finally |
| 0:30.5 | came back with, given that they had another option, but we have been itching, Alison Triesel. |
| 0:35.6 | She's been with us the last couple of weeks. Our defense attorney, our expert, let's get your reaction. And I mean that for the past week. Every time something happens, we want, ooh, I wonder what she thinks. Ooh, I wonder what Allison thinks. And we were actually texting you and you were in the middle of a case. And I said, please. I was in the middle of a murder case. |
| 0:54.3 | I was like, go focus. This is nothing. One case at a time, but I was a good to see you again. |
| 0:58.4 | Just first, your reaction to the Walsh verdict. Okay. As we started, when we started this, |
| 1:05.4 | I said, this case is a stinker. This case is a stinker. Okay. So we started from a place where I said, |
| 1:15.1 | this is a slam dunk for the prosecution. Then we get this very surprising defense in opening. |
| 1:24.3 | And the defense was essentially, yes, he lied to the police. He dismembered his own wife, |
| 1:32.8 | but he didn't kill her. And there is no body, so they will not have a manner and cause of death. |
| 1:38.7 | Okay. So they took a nothing and turned it into something for the defense to present to the jury. It was an all |
| 1:48.2 | or nothing essentially because you either believe that he killed her or you didn't. They didn't say, |
| 1:53.5 | and they could have said that he learned that night. They had an argument. Things went array. |
| 2:00.8 | And he didn't mean to kill her. They were |
| 2:03.9 | getting into it. And they were shooting for a second degree murder. They didn't do that. They went all |
| 2:09.8 | or nothing. And even though there was a jury instruction and I know that we went over this, I said, |
| 2:14.5 | look, they're going to add things at the end. And they did |
| 2:17.6 | include a second degree. Well, at the end of the day, and because the prosecution's closing was not |
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